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In Reply to: RE: cMP - the open source high-end Memory Player posted by cics on December 30, 2007 at 05:42:01
I finally have been able to get all the hardware together, except for the cache-less dvd rom drive. The reason for that is I haven't been able to find a drive with no cache.
I went with the Zalman case, 2 EarthWatts supplies, Juli@ card and two 2.5" 500Gb HDDs.
Also the Intel Core i3-530, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Kingston ValueRam DDR3-1333 @1GB as recommended by cics.
I have gathered the information in these posts (links provided by cics)
"BIOS details and more can be found Here, Here and Here
I don't have the experience of building a previous cMP so I thought it prudent to post a request for any information that will help me integrate the old build instructions with the new hardware recommendations.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post!!
Julien
"There's someone in my head, but it's not me"
Follow Ups:
what the difference is between IDE and SHCI is for the HDD.
I know I would like to know!
Here it is:
Dear customer,
F9d was beta version, has been replaced with oficial[sic] version F10, download able from this web:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3309#dl
Julien
"There's someone in my head, but it's not me"
Well... I found F9d. GA-H55M-UD2H F9d BIOS I'm not sure if I trust it or not. Is there no SATA? I thought IDE was for backwards compatibility??? Could you recommend a good DVD drive as I'm not able to find one with no cache.
I haven't begun the build yet. How is your's coming?
Julien
"There's someone in my head, but it's not me"
the dbpoweramp folks recommend a TEAC USB drive that they sell. I bought one. I also use a garden variety drive I bought from NEWEGG for less than twenty dollars and I do not detect a difference. Of course, my comparisons are as likely useless as helpful.
I am using a SAMSUNG sh-s223b. EAC says it does not cache and does detect C2 errors, for what that is worth.
I just looked on the dbpoweramp site and it does not seem to contain any information on drives. Their software does not make image files which makes it not instantly compatible with cmP. There is that program that will make them but I have not tried it. EAC is hard to beat and it is free.
Thanks Rick. I must have left a character or two out when I did the cut and paste. (I thought I checked it before I posted)
It's great to hear you have gotten that far with the optimizations. I guess we can be the Guinea pigs.:~) I believe I'll follow your lead since I'm treading on unfamiliar ground. I was going to post in Jacks thread about removing chips from the new board but, I chickened out. I'll wait to see if I have to RMA the MB.
Since you got the machine to post, I don't know if your still interested in F9d. I'll leave a link with the user friendly option. That way I can't screw it up!
Julien
"There's someone in my head, but it's not me"
Julien,
Thanks again. I wonder where this version (f9d) came from? One wonders why it is not at GIGABYTE. Was this someone's labor of love like cmP?
I have not had any problems with changing BIOS. Since you can use the USB memory things these days to do this it makes it very simple. I have never had trouble with that
I am getting ready to install it so if I find something goes wrong I will let you know.
I, too, was intrigued by the removal of chips from the board but going from memory I got the feeling it did not really accomplish that much. De-soldering is much harder than soldering. I am fairly brave when it comes to modifying stuff but this is completely out of my league!
I did not think we were to be guinea pigs for this board. I trust cics's instincts and have followed him before when my instinct told me his instinct was correct with previous versions.
I have been a dedicated LP guy for the last couple of years after not having a turntable for the previous two years. In that time I greatly enjoyed the evolution of cmP and the generosity of cics. While I do not think any digital system will ever mimic the unique quality of the LP there are good qualities to digital, too. The most important being how much music I like that is not available otherwise.
After two years I started missing those recordings and am looking forward to hearing the progress made.
I do not think you will have any trouble getting the board to post. When the message appears asking you if you want to use the ACHI "system" either ignore it entirely (it will go away after an interval) or "hit any key" as the instructions say to not see the message again (which is true until you make a change to BIOS settings). You should have no problem unless the board is defective!
Remember, when in BIOS to hit hit "control/F1" to get all of the possible choices. I would let the board, with cmP running on repeat, burn-in for a few days before trying to get to the 0.65 volts for the CPU. I started out with all of the other settings but with voltage around 0.9. When you try to go low too quickly you likely will overstep and have to re-set BIOS (at those pins with a small length of wire) and start all over again. Not the end of the world but just wanted to let you know. If I am telling you stuff you already know please forgive me.
Bye,
Rick McInnis
I have the H55M UD2H back and I am having some difficulty with the bios changes. I am using F10 not F9 for Bios should I change the bios to F9. Also I am using the L22 with a TNN300 and external monitor has anyone a similar setup. Not as straight forward as the G31M. T.
No worries!
I do not see anything different as far as what you can do.I made a list of the suggested changes and will copy them here, these include cics's suggestions and I have them trump lga775's suggestions (yes, I do have a bias towards cics):
Breaks signify different screens. I made this to have something to print out and figured it would be convenient for you, also. (it all was in alignment BEFORE the FORUM removed my tabs!)
Thanks for your help!
CPU Cores enabled 1
CPU Multi-threading ENABLED
CPU Enhanced Halt DISABLED
c3/c6/c7 State Support DISABLED
Bi-Directional PROCHOT DISABLED
ACPI Suspend Type S1(pos)
USB DEVICE Wake up from S3 ENABLED
Soft off by PWR BTTN INSTANT Off
PME Event Wake Up DISABLED
Power on by Ring DISABLED
Resume by Alarm DISABLED
HPET SUPPORT DISABLED
Power on by Mouse DISABLED
POWER on by Keyboard DISABLED
AC Back Function Soft off
EuP Support DISABLED
SATA AHCI Mode (leave alone for now is my suggestion)
SATA Port0-3 Native Mode ENABLED
USB Controllers ENABLED
USB Legacy Functions ENABLED
USB Storage Function ENABLED
AZALIA Codec DISABLED
Onboard H/W Lan DISABLED
Outboard IDE Controller DISABLED
Onboard Serial Port 1 DISABLED
Quick Boot DISABLED
HDD SMART DISABLED
Limit CPUID limit to 3 DISABLED
No Execute Memory Protect DISABLED
Dealt for HDD 0
Back Up BIOS image to HDD DISABLED
Onboard VGA Always Enable
On Chip Frame Buffer Size` 32mB
Load Line Calibration DISABLED
CPU Score 0.65 V
CPU/VTT 1.05 V
Graphics Core 0.65 V
PCH Core 0.950 V
CPU PLL 1.60 V
DRAM Voltage 1.56 V
rest - as isSystem Memory Multiplier 6.0
Performance Enhance Standard
DRAM Timing AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio 9
QPI Clock Ration 24
Spread Spectrum DISABLED
Base Clock Control ENABLED
BCLK Frequency 100
Extreme Memory Profile DISABLED
System Memory Multiplier 6
rest - as is
Edits: 07/13/10
I found I needed to keep cpu core and graphics voltage at 1.5 volts during the initial optimization. H55M-UD2H/i3 T.
No worries!
It is I who should be thanking you for providing your settings in such an easy to follow format. I'm happy that I could help in some small way.
I believe I will start my build today(after I finish in the yard. I think I'll just go with one PSU until I get everything stable.
Hearing of your success and having an easy to follow BIOS setting format makes me feel more confident. Thanks again Rick! and please keep us posted as you move forward.
Julien
"There's someone in my head, but it's not me"
Julien,
If one is methodical and tempers themselves to not hurry you will not have any problem.
A four year old can do this! I am not exaggerating. You cannot break it!
(I, too, do yard work between playing with my audio obsession)
Just get on with it!
I used two supplies because I had them. I agree with you - get it all going and run-in before doing that kind of thing.
Another thing to put on your list is to add capacitance at the plugs - again after you get it going. Listen for a month or so and then do a modification. Makes it all new again.
Second, bypass the breakout cable on JULIA and wire a connector to the solder pads on the board. This makes a substantial improvement. Again, wait till the previous mod has grown old (!).
Bye,
Rick McInnis
I found my problem with CPUZ was that it was not installed properly.
I got the latest version installed and all is well. (just out 9th of July!)
I got the F9 BIOS from the GIGABYTE site but I saw no "d" version.
I am mystified by the SHCI thing since my (limited) understanding of all of this is that the HDD for music playback is somewhat unimportant.
I would like to try using an SSD for WINDOWS and programs but not sure if I want to spend the money, yet.
The board has been running in for a week as I lower the CPU voltage. I am at 0.675 volts and waiting a few more days to see if I can get to 0.65.
I see in the settings from lga775 (I guess he will have to change his moniker!) that he is using the SHCI for his HDD. I would be grateful if he might explain why, and if, this is useful.
I need to build a 5 volts power supply so I can implement Dave Davenports HDMI based version of I2S connection between JULI@ and his dac. This supply will power both JULI@ and the "send" card. I am going to make it a CRCR filter without the typical three terminal regulators just to make it a little more difficult. AND because I worry that too many of these regulators cascaded can have their own problems.
I am using the originally recommended (back in the ART OF COMPUTER TRANSPORTS day) THERMALTAKE power supply for P$ and HDD and continuing with the ANTEC EARTHWORKS 430 for everything else. Eventually I will try some linear supplies.
After the confusion due to the HDD and SHCI was resolved I have had no problems getting the new MB to run.
Have fun!
Bye,
Rick McInnis
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