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In Reply to: RE: Not being a Codec Kid, and not a DIY guy, I just opted for the Audiolab 6000N. At some point, posted by tinear on September 09, 2020 at 07:38:45
It's hardly what I would call a DIY project.... Load a OS to card, and then start setting parameters on a Software program.. I have set people up a couple years ago, and they just play music. Figure on a evening or two, with phone support from me.....
Follow Ups:
it is for the truly clueless, electronically. I went with the Audiolab 6000N. Took me 8 or 9 hours to figure it all out with many screw ups along the way configuring this and that and trying to get the apps synched. I really, really appreciate the offer.
BTW, it was worth all the hassle. Listening to Alfred Brendel and it's glorious. An instance of where the hype is correct, or even understated. Earlier, listened to some Coltrane and it was almost scarily clear.
Tin, there is no electronics involved at all. It basically involves downloading some software, and plugging in the Rpi and then setting up some parameters. (Which I can walk you though it all)... Maybe an hour or so on the phone...
No need to be intimidated. - You'll get the hang of it.
Clearly the most complex and time consuming part of my installation was assembling and trimming the multi-stack Zebra case.
Here's a video of using a shorter case. I needed the "Tall HAT" version to support an Allo DigiOne.
View YouTube Video
--I believe that is their name--they will assemble the case for you if you send in the RPi4 board. They didn't charge me a penny to do it.
The Smraza acrylic case is similar to the C4labs Zebra case but it's much easier to assemble and it's cheaper.
The FLIRC case is probably the simplest of them all and it's passive - no fan.
Left: FLIRC Case || Right: Smraza Case
Edits: 09/12/20
But it doesn't take that long to set up the RPi. It took me half an hour the first time with absolutely no knowledge, and that half hour included opening the box from Amazon. I will admit that I looked up the instructions while waiting for the package and had the OS file downloaded on my Mac. The Pi itself is so easy, just write the OS to a micro SD card from the Mac, stick it into the slot on the Pi, plug the Pi into your router with a standard ethernet cable and power it up. You go to the default web address on your browser and it'll walk you through the rest of the setup, including attaching to your wifi. At least Volumio is that easy, maybe the other software isn't, but still not hard.You don't need to know Linux or any esoteric software if all you want is Volumio.
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subscription?
Which is why I almost never recommend Volumio. With PiCorePlayer, there is no extra Subscription Fee for any Streaming Service.
I had already paid for Audirvana months before and use that on my mac and stream Qobuz to Volumio on the Pi over UPnP. At the time only Tidal was available and the only way to get MQA was to use Audirvana to stream to the Pi. I subscribed to Qobuz when it became available and after a while realized I never used Tidal anymore so I gave it up. You really only need one service.
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Glad this worked for you but I certainly would not recommend this solution to a newbie that wanted to stream Qobuz.
The ability to stream Audirvana to a Pi using WiFi and DLNA would be great if I could figure out how to do it.
Currently happy with MPD/DLNA mode in the MicroRendu as a way of getting Audirvana from my Mac Mini to my DAC.
Adding the Pi with WiFi allows use in areas without ethernet.
If you set up a Pi with Volumio, Audirvana will immediately recognize it as a DLNA endpoint and allow you to select it. As you can see I'm streaming 24/88.2 to the Pi at the moment.
I have uRendu doing that duty so I see no reason I can't get the Pi to do the same.
Audirvana also sees my dCS Network Bridge as a DLNA device but I haven't tried to stream Audirvana through it as yet.
And as you can see in the pic my Firestick shows up too.
if it plays music, of course.I've gotten Audirvana to play through a Sony soundbar on the local ethernet so far.
And Audirvana sees the dCS Network Bridge as a UPnP device and plays trough it.
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So far everything has played. I have 3 RPi's around the house but only that one was active when I took the screen shot. I'll have to check the kitchen setup though now that I see that it didn't show up. It probably just needs a reboot. We were moving the routers around and it probably just disconnected.One thing I wanted to try is to get the Firestick to stream to the Raspberry Pi and Volumio. This way I could unplug the TV from the HT receiver. The problem would probably be latency even if it did work. It's gotta sync with the video. When I stream from Qobuz I have no idea how long it really takes for the music to start, nor do I care as long as it plays. The look ahead takes care of the next track in the queue so gapless playback happens. I've watched it happen during playback through Activity Monitor on the Mac. When you change the song midway through it sends the processors into a tizzy to catch up again. Luckily a quad core iMac is plenty of processor to do that and also to upsample or convert to DSD on the fly, all while doing whatever else you are doing.
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Do you have a guide that you have written? Sorry if I have missed it, if so. If not, would you consider writing one? Step-by-step start to finish for the Luddite?
Thanks!
There is a guide for PiCoreplayer here:
https://www.picoreplayer.org/main_getting_started.shtml
-- Although since there are so many configurations for the Rpi consisting of various Top Hats, DACs etc - streaming software etc.... A complete guide is almost impossible... And generally people do not know how to follow directions exactly. So people can start with this guide and then can ask specific questions. I bail them out over the phone initially... Once they get a working Rpi with software, they usually have no trouble configuring another.
I have one working as an ad-blocker, so I do have a little knowledge. I might try using that.
Thanks!
Generally, I can get a complete neophyte up and running in an hour on the phone.
Thanks, I may give it a try this weekend barring any more natural disaster.
And if you get in a jam, send me a PM and we'll connect and get it going.. It's really not the difficult, but you are installing a very powerful piece of software and the parameters need to be set correctly for what you are configuring. Top Hat - DAC etc. Rpi Model # etc.
Make sure you have an Ethernet Connection close to your stereo initially. You can get it going wireless after that if you desire.
Create a mysqueezebox.com account, if you don't have one.
Create a tunein Radio account if you don't have one of those either.
Doh! I need the hat yet. Forehead slap.
Depends on what you want to do?
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