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So I had an older version of iPeng on my iPad that I never use and just upgraded to iPeng 9.3 along with the in-App Player purchase.
I am now able to use the iPad as a portable Roon end-point via iPeng and not just as a Roon remote. This is kind of cool. I can take the iPad anywhere around the house and stream music from my Roon server through the iPad via Wifi.
- Enable Squeezebox support in Roon on the Roon server, a Mac Mini in my case.
- Launch iPeng 9.3 on the iPad.
- Configure then Enable Squeezebox [iPad iPeng] as the audio zone in Roon on the Roon server.
- iPeng on the iPad allows you to switch to the Roon App interface on the iPad so your interaction is now within the Roon App, not iPeng. Do it and the iPad becomes a Roon end-point with the powerful Roon interface.
This is kind of cool because I can not only stream my local content from my Mac Mini Roon server but also Tidal and control it all with a Roon interface on the iPad while it plays on the iPad.
Next step is powered speakers on the iPad, maybe via bluetooth but I prefer direct connect.
No need for a Pi here. Not that I have anything against a Pi end point but I now have a totally portable Roon end-point with rich graphical Roon interface that I can carry anywhere around the house, garage, backyard. ;-)
Streaming Tidal via Roon via iPeng 9.3 on iPad end point. Here I'm playing a Tidal curated 1977 Playlist. This tune just happens to be MQA encoded.
Yes, life would be better if I could use my iPad as a Roon endpoint. For many years I've been loyal to Airfoil, though I use it less now that Roon is in play. I can get Airfoil to send Roon to the iPad, but it feels very kludgy and complicated. There's a dose of cognitive dissonance in using the iPad to log in to the headless Mini and then broadcast back to the same iPad. It's disorienting; Ecsher-like.
I've never used iPeng. Is the experience any more straightforward?
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
I'm not real familiar with Airfoil as I have always thought of it as a workaround for not having AirPlay or AirPlay Mirroring capability on older Apple devices. This may not be a correct view. In any case, I cannot give you a direct comparison against iPeng.
I find iPeng + iPeng Player setup with Roon to be pretty straight forward. Once it's setup you don't even interact with iPeng. In fact, the iPeng Player cannot manage your Roon library. As best I can tell it's simply running on the iPad so Roon recognizes it as a Squeezebox compatible end-point. Once it's recognized, you switch to Roon and that's what you interact with and iPeng is just running in the background.
You first have to enable Squeezebox streaming in the Roon server. This is a one time deal. Once it's enabled just leave it.
Launch iPeng on your iPad. You have to now go into your Roon server as it will discover the iPad as a Squeezebox compatible end-point. Once you have the iPad Audio Device setup and enabled on your Roon server you can switch to the Roon App on the iPad and have the Roon interface in front of you for controlling playback and audio out of the iPad. This will also control Tidal if you use Tidal within Roon.
But if you switch to another Audio Device, you may need to go thru the setup process again of having Roon discover the iPad. No big deal.
In my case, using the iPad as an end-point is a secondary thing, a convenience if I want a portable end-point in the garage, backyard, etc. Otherwise, I listen to my main system and just use the Roon App normally.
Thank you Abe! I've been wanting to do this for a long time. I had iPeng with the in-app player, but I haven't used it since I switched over to Roon. My player purchase disappeared because I got a new iPad, and the "restore purchase" button in the app didn't work. I just paid the $5 to get it restored. Streaming Roon and Tidal to my iPad with an Audioquest Red Dragonfly and MQA appears to be working :)
I've been using it for years as both remote and endpoint for the bedroom.
Just took you almost a decade to figure out iPeng-Player. Great.
Apparently it sounds cool and it's better if all this is called "Roon-Server" and "Roon-Endpoint". At least you know what you pay for.
For others: Free LogitechMediaServer (nothing else Roon is using here and charging for it) is available for most platforms (MAC/PC/ARM)
One hint. You better make sure to figure out what format iPeng is actually playing back. (The same is valid for Android based squeeze players, which also exist since years btw.)
My two cents about streaming services (Tidal etc.) integration as plugins into LMS.
It works. And IMO that's about it.
To me it's a very basic implementation. I very much prefer the related streaming apps. And why using a 3PP server if I can stream directly via app !?!? Doesn't make sense to me.
" Just took you almost a decade to figure out iPeng-Player. Great."
No. I've had iPeng for years, the Player was never useful for me until a week ago when they added support for Roon. No one is asking YOU to like Roon. Your setup is YOUR business.
iPeng 9.3 has a new feature that does what I need :
- iPeng Playback (In-App-Purchase) is now compatible with Roon using Roon's Squeezebox emulation; you can now use iPeng as a Roon player*
*Roon compatibility only applies to iPeng Playback (In-App-Purchase) using Roon's Squeezebox emulation, you cannot use iPeng to browse Roon music libraries or to control Roon devices.
So, once iPeng Player is running, you switch to the Roon App player on the iPad and never have to look at iPeng again. I love it!
It will turn all of our iOS devices into portable Roon compatible end-points including iPads, iPhones, iPod Touch.... with the benefit of using Roon's rich interface.
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