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In Reply to: RE: Google, and most of the internet is free... posted by Ivan303 on June 14, 2017 at 17:21:50
I didn't think 'being free' was a major concern of most audiophiles, who spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on music, components and cables, etc.
Yes google is free but it really can't do half of what Roon can do.
It's hard to list all the things in this category as there are so many, but for a start, your playing history is a good example - google knows nothing about that. It also doesn't know what is in your library, so it can't automagically link it with Tidal seamlessly.
Now if you only have a few albums, know exactly what you want to play and don't want to listen to anything new then a simpler system might work. But many people really enjoy the music discovery built into Roon. A large percentage of what I listen to now I've discovered via Roon's built-in tools, like "Simlar Artists", hyperlinks from artist or album descriptions and so on, artists and albums I'd probably never have discovered via google. When I'm in the mood I can spend hours checking out new music that I wouldn't normally listen to.
Another really elegant and concise thing is the way the Roon interface is the same across PCs, Macs and iPads. iPeng used to annoy me with it's idiosyncracies and bugs.
Like to know the dynamic range of tracks? Sure you can run an external program but Roon does this automatically.
Same thing with lyrics - you can search but it's so much easier clicking an icon and bang, they are there. Point is you probably wouldn't bother using the internet to search for lyrics much.
I could list many more things like this..
No, but it knows all of the porn you search for, so that's a start! =:-0
I can find pretty much everything that Leonard Bernstein wrote, conducted, recorded, etc. by searching QOBUZ, TIDAL and Amazon.
I care not a whit for 'track' information, 'songs' or similar artists.
Lyrics? They are usually in a language I do not speak (except for Bernstein). ;-)
Well not everybody listens exclusively to music without words, or just non-english words..
But a very quick search on my Roon shows 189 albums with Bernstein as performer, and 251 as composer, across my library and Tidal. Took as long as a single normal google search.
Thing is when I listen to music I like to not fart around with google, etc. ymmv
might be a few compilations and duplicates there I'm guessing.
I doubt I'll get through them all.
"Well not everybody listens exclusively to music without words, or just non-english words.."
But then I'm not trying to convince YOU that YOU should not be using Roon.
Clearly you SHOULD.
OTOH, YOU seem to be convinced that I should be using Roon! I'm just saying that it's likely NOT the case.
When I listen to music I mostly don't like messing around with the software that is playing it and yes, everyone's mileage varies which has been my point all along.
I don't need Roon, I'm not going to pay for Roon and I certainly don't need a 'lifetime' subscription because, at my age, EVERYTHING I buy comes with a 'lifetime' guarantee! :-)
And yes, I'm pretty happy with LMS as it streams TIDAL and QOBUZ and everything on the hard drive of the computer it's loaded on.
Now if you can convince me that Roon sounds considerably BETTER than LMS on MY system, I MIGHT listen.
Nope I wasn't saying that you should use Roon; I was simply talking about some of it's cool features. (This is a Roon thread after all)
As far as sound quality, well one thing that would be an improvement (and I can say this with some certainty) would be to use HQplayer to upsample your 44/16 output to 192/24 or 96/24 and then put it into your Audio-GD dac (just like the one I have). I don't think you can feed it from LMS into HQplayer, but guess which software does support this approach..
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