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In Reply to: RE: Can someone comment on the SQ of ROON? posted by lokie on June 08, 2017 at 09:18:31
what about stability of a 5 to 10 TB plus size NAS library.
Chris at CA suggest one needs a $600 "appliance" (ROCK) to keep things stable where a general purpose computer does not.
I don't mind spending time and effort setting something up, but I want to avoid something that I have to spend time trouble shooting, updating and on going general maintenance.
I had issues with Roon stability for a while.
I run Roon core on Sonictransporter i5. I have about 20K flac files on a 2TB external HDD directly attached to STi5. I also have about 20K Tidal tracks "added" to my library, a very nice option in Roon.
It was all smooth sailing until Roon 1.3 was introduced early this year. Then for a couple of month I was unable to sort the library properly: the control unit (iPad) would just hang with every other sorting task. I understand that searching/sorting library has become very resource intensive with 1.3. Very frustrating ... Switching off Tidal (temporarily) helped, but was suboptimal ... In fairness, no issues with playback, it always remained stable.
I spent considerable time with customer service at Roon, uploading logs etc ... Had the impression they are dealing with a substantial flow of problems and were unable to focus on my issue.
Then, with a new Roon software update, they somehow fixed it -- the control unit still hangs from time to time, but for a short period. I do not know what the problem was.
I am scared that something similar may happen again in the future, perhaps with a Roon 1.4 release, or 1.5 or ...
Bottom line: I love Roon -- it brings my library to life like no other player in my experience -- and will continue to use it, but will avoid "lifetime" subscription.
"Chris at CA suggest one needs a $600 "appliance" (ROCK) to keep things stable where a general purpose computer does not."
That's just total B.S. IMHO.
According to Chris:
"Not too long after I built the PC, I started having issues that I've yet to solve. The PC must be restarted daily for Roon, JRiver, or web browsers to work. I've also installed Roon on a number of NAS units, and been disappointed by the slow speed when browsing and searching my library (300,000+ tracks). The point of my story is to point out that problems will arise with a general purpose computer and a better solution is desirable."
That's a broad generalization to take HIS problems with HIS general purpose computers and suggest that all Roon users will be faced with the same problems.
I can understand having problems with loading Roon on a anemic NAS but no one is forcing a gun to his head suggesting that this is the right way to architect a Roon solution. It's not rocket science!
It's fine for Chris to be enthusiastic about ROCK based appliances since he can't seem to handle his general purpose computers but that doesn't mean general purpose computers are suddenly no longer viable for other Roon users.
All you need is a decent PC/Mac with a few GB of RAM and preferably an SSD for the Roon database.... along with storage for your library locally or on your existing NAS.
Why not try it with what you have first rather than being swayed by one person's inability to manage his computer?
I've been running Roon for a year on my Mac Mini with ZERO issues or any of the problems Chris describes. I'm sure others are having similar success with their Windows/Linux PC's running Roon.
And BTW, Roon sounds better than "good enough".
Take a look at the Sonic Transporters at Small Green Computer. Install and forget. Appliances really. Updates itself (like all of Roon )at the touch of a button.
If they aren't fast enough to do what you need, they will tell you.
I already have a multitude of computers from work, kids etcc.. Both MAC and PC.
But I might think about a $600 (ROCK)appliance in addition to one of my re- purposed computers... that is, if it works as advertised and I don't have to do or buy anything for 3 or 4 years.
Also, a bit concerned that there is no guarantee that ROON won't go up in price.
Is your library too big for the i5?
I have the i3 and it was under 400, but it looks like its no longer available.
I'm sure it will go up in price eventually, but you can always lock in a lifetime membership.
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