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In Reply to: RE: "So, now completely removed from all of my Computers" posted by E-Stat on May 15, 2017 at 17:57:33
To be more precise, I should have said "where I do most of my other computing tasks."But the advantages of a NAS are Huge. Maybe not, if you are not a 'Power User' however.
But for me. (And I also have an i7 Processor that is smaller than a Textbook. - Which actually does sit on my desktop!)
1.) I am not listening to my Power supply Fans or other Case Fans in my Den any longer. I don't have to listen to to the high pitched Whine of a hard drive either.
2.) If you are running Windows like I am, your computer is not on 'All the time' as Windows is constantly giving me updates and re-starting my Machine. I have Multiple users on it and LMS only gets started when I log onto the computer, even though it has been re-started. Also Sometimes I run some Rogue Software that Hangs and Freezes my Machine or goes into a loop and a re-start is required.
3.) I also don't like Streaming from a PC for the same reasons. I prefer a streamer such as an RPi.
4.) My NAS has a RAID system.
5.) Sharing Files is a Breeze, even remotely from anywhere in the World.
6.) My NAS also has excellent Backup Software that runs by itself to 2 other separate drives. All located in the back room of my basement, where I don't have to listen to them.
Maybe a NAS is not for you, but that does not mean they are not extremely useful for others. Especially 'Power Users' that are doing many different things with their computers.
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But the advantages of a NAS are Huge. Maybe not, if you are not a 'Power User' however.
Well, I'm an IT guy who uses my computer daily for a range of applications.
1. My office based computer is far from any listening area and uses an SSD for the OS. If your drives are whining, its time to replace them. OTOH, my computer does add 8 db to the background noise. I have considered replacing the 3.5" drive with a 2.5" drive like my USB backup drives which are silent.
2. I choose the Windows option "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them". I got the monthly Windows update files the night before last and chose to update them while out for a run yesterday.
3. Same here.
4. I once used RAID, but later found that wasteful in my situation. I've yet to experience a drive failure since I proactively check mine and find that weekly backups to offline drives provides protection and vastly increases their life as they run an hour a month vs 24 hrs/day. It would be different, however, in a business setting where transaction files are constantly being updated like that of my clients.
5. Such is the case with any Linux or Windows server. I regularly access a range of company servers for file access. We use a NAS as a backup to the backup. Once completed, it goes offline to prevent attack from malware.
6. Back to point #4. I perform a daily backup my financial data to a collection of USB flash drives. Otherwise, I just don't change the bulk of my files - pictures, music and video very often.
So, yes it might be nice to reduce the sound level a bit while I'm working. :)
We can agree to disagree. I love my NAS and it is the Best thing I have ever done with my home computer system.
I'm glad you're happy with your system. I would not be however.
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If you're making the case that a NAS is a Useless Gadget
Just finding such not required if you already have a capable server which is located away from the music and video systems.
I have a laptop and two iPads, but prefer to enjoy its far larger monitor when using Windows applications. Like now.
I prefer simplicity. One computer accessible by other devices suffices for me. :)
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if all you need is storage, then a NAS is clearly the simplest solution.
In my case, however, I require a PC to run a wide range of applications.
That box just happens to contain plenty of space for all my stuff and happily talks to other boxes around the house. :)
Here is Mine. Latest i7 Skylake Processor... 32 Gig of memory. 256G SSD Drive. At 7 inches square, it doesn't take up much space. Fastest Computer I have ever owned.
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My five foot wide L-shaped desk wouldn't begin to fit in that nook. I can see how in your situation compactness matters. While much larger, my tower based computer is tucked away inside the desk under the "L".
I'm blessed with a dedicated 14 x 17 home office with integrated bookshelves on one wall. But then, I'm not (yet) retired and work in that space every day.
BTW, I ordered a quieter 2.5" 2TB drive to replace the 3.5" unit currently in use with leftover Paypal funds from selling the last Touch. I'll move the old one to a Sabrent USB enclosure used for offline backups that lives in the same space as the tower. I've needed to upgrade the capacity of my offline backup drives, so this is a good migration.
When the time comes to downsize into a new space, your approach makes perfect sense.
The room is quite large..... 12' x 16'. And I used to have a Full Sized Tower PC where the drawers are now. I am just electing to keep things out of View and earshot. I like the Looks of Audio Gear (Especially Tubes). Computer Gear not so Much.
Here is part of the rest of the room. And I do have over 3600 Sq. Ft. of living area. It is more about aesthetics.
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It is more about aesthetics.
Well, my office is more about functionality as it isn't a living space. Having said that, the tower is completely hidden within the desk. What you see is the large monitor along with two printers on a cabinet. And a telescope to one side. Behind me is a large bayed window.
In one bookshelf, you see the dancing lights of the modem and router. The amp driving the in house audio system in located inside one of the built in cabinets on the wall so that is likewise hidden.
I'm not seeing anything.....
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What is seen by those who enter the office is the rear of the desk out from the wall about six feet with the view outside to my back. I don't like staring at a wall. :)Which just happens to face west - hence the poor contrast at this time of day. :)
Some winter pics from the office:
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A picture of my NAS Unit downstairs in my Cabinet. (Dollar Bill for Size reference). It's a 2 Bay Unit Capable of 20TB. LMS runs here. I have run this for over 5 months without a re-start. File sharing is the big Plus Across all windows platforms. Unlike windows which is a royal pain in the ass.
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Indeed drives are pretty small today and more reliable. Not sure of the challenge you face with file sharing.
For work shares (located on servers a thousand miles away), I click on a shortcut from my Win10 laptop.
For home shares, I click on a different shortcut. No pain here. ??
I was referring to setting up File Sharing, Changing, security - Different Windows Versions etc. in Windows. If you are truly interested in why Just Google "Why is Windows File Sharing Such a Pain in the Ass" and you can spend the rest of your life reading.Cut-Throat
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since I've already done it with my network, I really don't need to know how others struggle with it. :) Yes, one needs to wrestle with the many nannies, but I've learned where they are.
My data drive is partitioned into two logical drives: one smaller one with sensitive data and the other, a much larger space with "public" data such as music, video and pictures. I can access the latter remotely from anywhere.
You're STILL welcome...............................;-)
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