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In Reply to: RE: Done! posted by Ivan303 on April 07, 2017 at 10:59:56
I understand the fascination with LMS, open source what used to be called slimserver, perhaps close to 20 years ago I had the first squeezebox, it was nice for the 1990s. To each his own whatever floats your boat. Honestly no disrespect to all the developers who are trying to keep that software alive, IMHO it is outdated and band-aid crap.
Install volumio on another card, fiddle with LMS and slimserver or whatever the hell it is called some other day. Just in my humble opinion, don't go nuts.
Follow Ups:
Both LMS and Squeezelite are still under active development and actually get updated more frequently with relevent updates and fixes much more often than volumio.
Granted the UI has not changed since the intro date but it still provides everything needed perfectly.
FWIW, I did create a new GUI for LMS which uses a completely different color scheme etc. And there are other 3rd party GUI's available for a fresh look.
apologies gentlemen, I was clueless about this.
Is Logitech doing the maintaining or is it completely open source community now?
Don't know exactly who but I just got an update last week and the one before that was just last month. I get update alerts regularly.
See Change Log Below: March 7, 2017 update was big.
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Version 7.9.1
Bug Fixes:
#16319 - faad: some files won't play -- depends on name of file.
MS Edge 15 would not let us click links in the Default web UI.
Other:
Updated faad2 to latest code. Includes patches to increase maximum path length and fix some transcoding issues on Windows. Thanks ralphy and utgg.
Version 7.9.0 - 2017-03-07
New Features:
Library Browsing improvements:
Add option to use two browse modes for Album Artists and All Artists instead of one single, configurable list.
Add "Random Album" browse mode, to give access to a random selection of albums.
Add a "Browse Filesystem" mode to access files outside the music folder, without storing them in the database.
Add possibility to browse music managed by an other Logitech Media Server instance and play music from it without the need to switch server.
Browse favorite Artists/Genres/Albums instead of just playing them when selected.
Add Extended Browse Modes plugin to further configure the library browsing experience.
Add support for "Virtual Libraries" or custom library views, to limit the browsing to a sub-set of your overall music collection.
Restore ability to play playlists from Browse Music Folder
Improved Browse Music Folder performance.
UI improvements:
Add new, fast live search to the web UI.
Add Fulltext Search: when searching music the results are no longer limited to a simple title or name search. Fulltext search includes a lot more data like artist names, lyrics (if available), file type etc. in the evaluation of the search term.
Improve "Advanced Search": allow searching for ratings, ranges of years, save results, use results as virtual library etc.
Give (limited) control over other players connected to your server from the web UI: power them on/off or start/pause playback without the need to switch the currently controlled player
Add Drag'n'Drop support to the web UI: drag and drop audio files from your desktop's file manager (Finder, Explorer etc.) to the Logitech Media Server web interface to play them back.
Allow the web UI's right hand side panel with player control and current playlist to be hidden.
Allow the web UI to be opened with a given navigation for the left hand navigation panel (eg. start with Album Artists).
Speed up library browsing in the web UI by caching rendered pages
Scanner behaviour improvements:
Allow browsing your music folder while the scanner is running.
Don't stop the music when running a full wipe & rescan.
Add an option to disable automatic rescans on certain preference changes.
Increased scanning performance.
Add "Don't Stop The Music" plugin, allowing you to automatically continue the music listening when your playlist comes to an end.
Add support for DSD/DSF files on some platforms.
Add new way to read player specific transcoding settings from helper files (eg. for room correction). Thanks LMS0815!
Add update auto-download and/or notification for Linux distributions
Allow streaming of https sources by proxying them through LMS (if possible - requires IO::Socket::SSL to be installed on platforms other than Windows)
Bug Fixes:
#596 - Display total duration of a playlist in the web UI.
#709 - Add support for "Browse Composers".
#2333 - Play music outside the music folder without storing it in the database.
#4105 - Don't clear the current playlist when a scan is triggered.
#5108 - Track artist roles become artist roles when COMPILATION=0.
#5507 - Need ability to rescan music library from SqueezePlay based user interfaces.
#5715 - Advanced search doesn't limit results, can freeze the server.
#7491 - Startup parameters are missing when server is run as a Windows service
#8113 - UPnP servers do not appear on controller.
#9671 - Enable browsing from favorites.
#9687 - Add option to opt out of automatically triggered library scans.
#11556 - Resizing of left/right pane doesn't work in IE8.
#12158 - Allow Inclusion of Tracks from other servers in current playlist.
#15604 - Provide a Browse Compilations browse mode.
#16506 - Honor read access given by ACLs (thanks htgoebel!).
#17081 - "Various Artists" setting should not be blank, but show the default value.
#17454 - Unable to delete playlists with playlist rescan.
#17474 - Can't browse music folder during scan.
#17404 - Cue-sheet problems when navigated to via Music Folder.
#17526 - Push any firmware found in cache/updates to players, even if "Check for Updates" is disabled.
#17770 - DISC and DISCC TAGS in cue sheets are not recognized (thanks mrthreeplates!).
#17795 - Missing cover blocks real artwork from being found.
#17863 - No display of "Comment" Tag when special characters are used.
#17953 - Wrong transcoding settings to MP3 in default install.
#18107 - Various Artists not include among Album Artists when separate Album Artists and Artists lists are enabled.
#18112 - Tracks with double DATE tags get the wrong year assigned by the scanner.
Fix support for multi-disc sets in cue files - thanks msrthreeplates!
Fix the band "The The". Don't strip articles from search terms.
Improve parsing of Atom podcast feeds
Other:
Restore the ability to run a single folder scan even if the external scanner needs to run
Use VACUUM to reorganize library files when appropriate. This should help performance with larger collections and libraries which have been updated a lot. Cache files use auto_vacuum, as they change a lot more often.
On Windows and x86 CPU based systems we're going to use more memory for buffers etc. to improve performance.
Tweak the web UI to use less graphics and simpler HTML structure. Please note that MSIE users will require version 9 or later, or one of the alternative browsers.
Remove SlimService specific code. 7.9 will never be run on mysqueezebox.com.
Re-factor preference migration code. Only load migration handlers if needed.
Complete re-write of the CUE sheet parsing. Thanks marcoc1712!
Add ALBUMARTIST tag support for Cue files (thanks mrthreeplates!).
Disable cross-fading between tracks with different sample rates (thanks hickinbottoms!)
Enhance string substitution to improve 3rd party transcoding support (thanks LMS0815!)
The "mediafolder" query for music files optionally returns coverid (if available). Use the new 'c' tag.
Updated player icons in settings pages, now gracefully falling back to generic squeezeplay symbol if unknown player is connected. Thanks LMS0815!
Add helper application binaries for i86pc-solaris (thanks chincheta0815!) and ARM hard float systems
Add --nomysqueezebox startup parameter to disable all interaction with mysqueezebox.com
Move UPnP client code to Remote Library plugin. Remove now unnecessary --noupnp startup parameter.
Try to automatically recover from database corruption
Updated translations: Dutch (thanks pinkdot!), French (thanks minscof!), Norwegian (thanks Moffedille!), Polish (thanks matka & Maciej (mh_)!)
wow, that is fantastic. There are some really good people out there in the open source world.
I didn't know this, I thought it was stagnant.
I still won't use it but that's just me.
Open Source is truly amazing
My hats off to all these people who contribute their time and energy to make all this happen...Volumio, Rune, Foobar, Squeeze---, etc. etc. etc. Even the good folks of the Linux world Ubuntu, Fedora et.al.
I tried to talk Roon into going Open Source but they are slow to move in that direction. Open source would fix all of their Spotify issues and bring a whole lot of functionality to their product. Just look at Android.
I remember eating a hamburger next to the CEO of Red Hat in NYC during the first or second linux expo.
There's lots of great peeps out there.
IMHO it is outdated and band-aid crap.
What does Volumio do better? I'm open to changing if there is value in doing so.
Understand that I use iPeng on three iOS devices which allows them to be used as either remote or player to LMS - and they are used regularly in that manner.
I have tried Volumio since its initial release date. Its always been super buggy and slow when/if it works.
If everything worked it would be great, but as it stands in a seemingly ALPHA state its un-usable
If everything worked it would be great...
Assuming it worked perfectly, what does it deliver that LMS doesn't? I confess that I'm not much of a visionary in terms of added functionality that I might find useful.
What new tricks does it play?
It offers nothing the LMS does not, in fact it just recently got the ability to stream Spotify...only.
So your choices are your own library, links to internet streams and Spotify.
Thats it
LMS supports Spotify and Tidal even though I'm not a subscriber to either. Aren't those the most prominent choices for renting music?
I am a bit disappointed, however, they dropped XM support since wifey and I use that in our cars.
I stream from my phone in my car with Tunein radio..... Much more choices and Free..... My XM will be dumped when the subscription expires in a couple months.Much Better Fidelity with Tunein Radio than XM... XM is probably the worst.
As far as other Choices for Streaming.. There is Deezer, Tunein Radio, Pandora and probably a lot more that I don't listen to. The point is that if it streams LMS will probably be able to.... Someone has written a Pluggin etc. etc.....
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Which is why we have it.
Sure, wifey's Boxster and my Ridgeline both support phone access, but I'd much rather not futz with my phone while driving. :)
I set my phone up before I start driving, and it stays there all day. Do you switch stations a lot on XM?..............I didn't.
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I like being able to just get in the car and easily select from a number of favorite stations without having to take my phone/wallet out of my pocket.
I can easily switch between FM/XM/USB flash drive using controls on the steering wheel.
"I can easily switch between FM/XM/USB flash drive using controls on the steering wheel."
I can easily select between FM/AUX port (My Phone)/USB flash drive using the controls on the steering wheel too.
Plus --- I don't have to pay for XM and Plus --- I get any radio station in the world, as well as Spotify, Pandora, Tunein, etc. etc. etc....
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I get any radio station in the world, as well as Spotify, Pandora, Tunein, etc. etc. etc...
My wife enjoys the Broadway and Comedy channels. I typically listen to the 60s,70s,80s and Spa channels.
What radio stations provide that focused ad-free content?
Tunein Radio....
http://tunein.com/radio/Comedy-c25212376/
Or whatever else.
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Same here, my wife listens to Japanese radio stations in her car. Her phone and car sink up as soon as she gets in and the music starts automatically. Phone just stays in her purse. Calls etc all voice.
LMS still supports more than every other software ie Roon, Volumio, Rune et.al
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