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In Reply to: RE: It's 'Flash Friday'! posted by Ivan303 on April 07, 2017 at 09:44:17
MySqueezebox/my players sees a piCorePlayer, whatever THAT means.
Thinking that's a GOOD sign as I haven't told Logitech Media Server that I was plugging a Raspberry Pi with PiCorePlayer in its uSD slot.
Have no idea what to do next, but that's not surprising. Music is on a different computer on the same network but for some reason only sees the computer that I have logged into with Logitech Media Server.
Follow Ups:
OK, In MySqueezebox I have piCorePlayer as my only player listed in the MyPlayers window:
Type: Squeezeplay
Status: Not Connected
So the 'Not Connected' can't be good, right?
Do you have another Sqeezebox type unit?
You only have PiCorePlayer and PicorePlayer is connected right?Can you play music?
If you get a red check mark saying Squeezelite not running in the PiCorePlayer user interface just make sure your output is correct.
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Is this another app?
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So after 'flashing' I should not have put the SD card into the Raspberry Pi?
OOOOPS!
Because I see none of the screens in the video after the SD card was 'flashed'.
I think he's just poking fun.
If he is this green concerning computers how can he even post a message here or even log in?
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I think I need treatment.
Let me go have a few drinks...be right back!
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With a bit of over-the-phone help from inmate 'bullethead', I found the correct IP address for the Raspberry Pi and, stepping SLOWLY through Dynobot's video, managed to get MUSIC coming out of at least the headphone jack.
That's a HUGE start.
So I turned of the WiFi transmitter and can see how one controls the little bugger now.
Missing that one IP address AND the small (on a laptop) settings button in the lower right corner of the screen was most of my problem in getting to all of those screens once the box was hooked up and running.
So thanks to all, and especially inmate 'bullethead'. TIDAL is now officially playing on the Raspberry Pi.
Next moving it near to the Audio-GD DAC and getting it running with the HiFiBerry S/PDIF board, which I can see now should not be a problem.
Quit his job and turned to volunteering his time and effort for the good of others, giving away free stuff, free phone consult....
Whats next?
he may or may not end up using in his bedroom system! ;-)
At this rate, he's going to be a Monk by summer!
It is funny you mentioned being a monk, I looked into it. Make Ale all day ;)
those Monks work very very hard, starting in the early morning until late at night. I did look into it honestly.
there is lots of opportunity out there. There's some great documentaries about monks on YouTube, very enlightening.
I'm not a Monk but having looked into it myself...being Buddhist, I can see the life as being very rewarding and fulfilling as supposed to being a Capitalist puppet.
Coming from this type of world [jobs, bills, consume, etc] I would imagine a great sense of freedom letting all of it go...
I would honestly both envy you and be happy for you if you went that route.
There once was a monastery that was very strict. Following a vow of silence, no one was allowed to speak at all. But there was one exception to this rule. Every ten years, the monks were permitted to speak just two words. After spending his first ten years at the monastery, one monk went to the head monk. "It has been ten years," said the head monk. "What are the two words you would like to speak?"
"Bed... hard..." said the monk.
"I see," replied the head monk.
Ten years later, the monk returned to the head monk's office. "It has been ten more years," said the head monk. "What are the two words you would like to speak?"
"Food... stinks..." said the monk.
"I see," replied the head monk.
Yet another ten years passed and the monk once again met with the head monk who asked, "What are your two words now, after these ten years?"
"I... quit!" said the monk.
"Well, I can see why," replied the head monk. "All you ever do is complain."
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Ivan303 let me put that I helped him on my resume.
I'll land the next job FAST now :)
I'm still going to take 6 months off :)
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And music is currently playing so that's the proof the accomplishment!
Only problem is I have to move everything out of the office and into another room to get the Raspberry Pi near to my DAC/Headphone amp.
And the REMEMBER what I did to get the music to play.
Short term memory ain't my best card these days. :-(
So what did I miss in the Video?
I need to update it, or my web site to make things more clear.
Truth be told, thats why I made the web site to begin with...because I can't remember.
The two ip address entries to get the two screens, PiCorePlayer and Logitech Media server up and running are critical. The ip address of the device being used is easy (Apple preferences), the ip address of the Raspberry Pi not so intuitive.
Once I got the same screens up as you have in the video, all is good. Does YouTube have a SUPER SOLO-MO mode? For a seventy something year old brain, you go through this stuff FAST.
Now running the Raspberry Pi on a 5V 2A 24,000mah battery pack and it sounds MUCH better, so perhaps with some tweaks?
How do you slow the clock? Missed that in the advanced setup?
See pic above
Almost got it sounding as good as my laptop USB output.
Running off the 24,000 mAh battery, it REAL close.
MORE TWEAKS PLEASE!
What about the HiFiBerry Digi+ PRO? Worth the extra $$?
I'll likely get another if I can get this one working right. Like to see one on every Ethernet jack throughout the house. Gives me an excuse to BUY MORE DACs, HEadphones, Amps and Speakers. ;-)
I like the Digi + Pro, to me it sounds much better than the standard Digi+
Slow the cpu etc.
Go to your PiCorePlayer ip address so you can see the user interface, then select the "Tweaks" tab then 4th item down you will see "Advanced Overclock" select that and you will see a screen where you can underclock, etc.
It's not QUITE as easy as you guys have been claiming. ;-)
I'm guessing that's it.
Going to go back to square 1 and re-flash the uSB card and see if there is something I missed because did not see and of the screens in the video showed up after I 'flashed' to card.
Patience, there may be a career in 'chat' customer service for you guys when all of this is done. "Helped Ivan Set Up His Raspberry Pi" would look good on anyone's resume. ;-)
Did you follow this?
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Make sure its available and configured properly.
Oops! You don't appear to have any players registered to this account.
To access your Squeezebox settings, you'll need to log in to the same mysqueezebox.com account both on this website and on your Squeezebox.
Make sure you're signed up and logged in to a mysqueezebox.com account on your Squeezebox (usually this is done during setup), and that your Squeezebox is turned on and connected to your network.
So I have no idea what the ip address of the Raspberry Pi is and have no way to find out?
Do I need to download an app to control the Raspberry Pi with an iPhone??
Go to http://localhost:9000 and follow the steps to create an account at mysqueezebox.com.
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Go to the same address and then under settings and the mysqueezebox.com tab login or create an account.
once you are connected you can go to the players tab and see your picoreplayer address under the player tab in settings.
So I have no idea what the ip address of the Raspberry Pi is and have no way to find out?
What I did was to log into my router and view the DNS table. It will appear as "piCorePlayer".
Do I need to download an app to control the Raspberry Pi with an iPhone?
As a "headless" renderer, the answer is a decided yes. I really enjoy iPeng as it allows iOS devices to serve either as remote or player.
Amazing.
I understand the fascination with LMS, open source what used to be called slimserver, perhaps close to 20 years ago I had the first squeezebox, it was nice for the 1990s. To each his own whatever floats your boat. Honestly no disrespect to all the developers who are trying to keep that software alive, IMHO it is outdated and band-aid crap.
Install volumio on another card, fiddle with LMS and slimserver or whatever the hell it is called some other day. Just in my humble opinion, don't go nuts.
Both LMS and Squeezelite are still under active development and actually get updated more frequently with relevent updates and fixes much more often than volumio.
Granted the UI has not changed since the intro date but it still provides everything needed perfectly.
FWIW, I did create a new GUI for LMS which uses a completely different color scheme etc. And there are other 3rd party GUI's available for a fresh look.
apologies gentlemen, I was clueless about this.
Is Logitech doing the maintaining or is it completely open source community now?
Don't know exactly who but I just got an update last week and the one before that was just last month. I get update alerts regularly.
See Change Log Below: March 7, 2017 update was big.
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Version 7.9.1
Bug Fixes:
#16319 - faad: some files won't play -- depends on name of file.
MS Edge 15 would not let us click links in the Default web UI.
Other:
Updated faad2 to latest code. Includes patches to increase maximum path length and fix some transcoding issues on Windows. Thanks ralphy and utgg.
Version 7.9.0 - 2017-03-07
New Features:
Library Browsing improvements:
Add option to use two browse modes for Album Artists and All Artists instead of one single, configurable list.
Add "Random Album" browse mode, to give access to a random selection of albums.
Add a "Browse Filesystem" mode to access files outside the music folder, without storing them in the database.
Add possibility to browse music managed by an other Logitech Media Server instance and play music from it without the need to switch server.
Browse favorite Artists/Genres/Albums instead of just playing them when selected.
Add Extended Browse Modes plugin to further configure the library browsing experience.
Add support for "Virtual Libraries" or custom library views, to limit the browsing to a sub-set of your overall music collection.
Restore ability to play playlists from Browse Music Folder
Improved Browse Music Folder performance.
UI improvements:
Add new, fast live search to the web UI.
Add Fulltext Search: when searching music the results are no longer limited to a simple title or name search. Fulltext search includes a lot more data like artist names, lyrics (if available), file type etc. in the evaluation of the search term.
Improve "Advanced Search": allow searching for ratings, ranges of years, save results, use results as virtual library etc.
Give (limited) control over other players connected to your server from the web UI: power them on/off or start/pause playback without the need to switch the currently controlled player
Add Drag'n'Drop support to the web UI: drag and drop audio files from your desktop's file manager (Finder, Explorer etc.) to the Logitech Media Server web interface to play them back.
Allow the web UI's right hand side panel with player control and current playlist to be hidden.
Allow the web UI to be opened with a given navigation for the left hand navigation panel (eg. start with Album Artists).
Speed up library browsing in the web UI by caching rendered pages
Scanner behaviour improvements:
Allow browsing your music folder while the scanner is running.
Don't stop the music when running a full wipe & rescan.
Add an option to disable automatic rescans on certain preference changes.
Increased scanning performance.
Add "Don't Stop The Music" plugin, allowing you to automatically continue the music listening when your playlist comes to an end.
Add support for DSD/DSF files on some platforms.
Add new way to read player specific transcoding settings from helper files (eg. for room correction). Thanks LMS0815!
Add update auto-download and/or notification for Linux distributions
Allow streaming of https sources by proxying them through LMS (if possible - requires IO::Socket::SSL to be installed on platforms other than Windows)
Bug Fixes:
#596 - Display total duration of a playlist in the web UI.
#709 - Add support for "Browse Composers".
#2333 - Play music outside the music folder without storing it in the database.
#4105 - Don't clear the current playlist when a scan is triggered.
#5108 - Track artist roles become artist roles when COMPILATION=0.
#5507 - Need ability to rescan music library from SqueezePlay based user interfaces.
#5715 - Advanced search doesn't limit results, can freeze the server.
#7491 - Startup parameters are missing when server is run as a Windows service
#8113 - UPnP servers do not appear on controller.
#9671 - Enable browsing from favorites.
#9687 - Add option to opt out of automatically triggered library scans.
#11556 - Resizing of left/right pane doesn't work in IE8.
#12158 - Allow Inclusion of Tracks from other servers in current playlist.
#15604 - Provide a Browse Compilations browse mode.
#16506 - Honor read access given by ACLs (thanks htgoebel!).
#17081 - "Various Artists" setting should not be blank, but show the default value.
#17454 - Unable to delete playlists with playlist rescan.
#17474 - Can't browse music folder during scan.
#17404 - Cue-sheet problems when navigated to via Music Folder.
#17526 - Push any firmware found in cache/updates to players, even if "Check for Updates" is disabled.
#17770 - DISC and DISCC TAGS in cue sheets are not recognized (thanks mrthreeplates!).
#17795 - Missing cover blocks real artwork from being found.
#17863 - No display of "Comment" Tag when special characters are used.
#17953 - Wrong transcoding settings to MP3 in default install.
#18107 - Various Artists not include among Album Artists when separate Album Artists and Artists lists are enabled.
#18112 - Tracks with double DATE tags get the wrong year assigned by the scanner.
Fix support for multi-disc sets in cue files - thanks msrthreeplates!
Fix the band "The The". Don't strip articles from search terms.
Improve parsing of Atom podcast feeds
Other:
Restore the ability to run a single folder scan even if the external scanner needs to run
Use VACUUM to reorganize library files when appropriate. This should help performance with larger collections and libraries which have been updated a lot. Cache files use auto_vacuum, as they change a lot more often.
On Windows and x86 CPU based systems we're going to use more memory for buffers etc. to improve performance.
Tweak the web UI to use less graphics and simpler HTML structure. Please note that MSIE users will require version 9 or later, or one of the alternative browsers.
Remove SlimService specific code. 7.9 will never be run on mysqueezebox.com.
Re-factor preference migration code. Only load migration handlers if needed.
Complete re-write of the CUE sheet parsing. Thanks marcoc1712!
Add ALBUMARTIST tag support for Cue files (thanks mrthreeplates!).
Disable cross-fading between tracks with different sample rates (thanks hickinbottoms!)
Enhance string substitution to improve 3rd party transcoding support (thanks LMS0815!)
The "mediafolder" query for music files optionally returns coverid (if available). Use the new 'c' tag.
Updated player icons in settings pages, now gracefully falling back to generic squeezeplay symbol if unknown player is connected. Thanks LMS0815!
Add helper application binaries for i86pc-solaris (thanks chincheta0815!) and ARM hard float systems
Add --nomysqueezebox startup parameter to disable all interaction with mysqueezebox.com
Move UPnP client code to Remote Library plugin. Remove now unnecessary --noupnp startup parameter.
Try to automatically recover from database corruption
Updated translations: Dutch (thanks pinkdot!), French (thanks minscof!), Norwegian (thanks Moffedille!), Polish (thanks matka & Maciej (mh_)!)
wow, that is fantastic. There are some really good people out there in the open source world.
I didn't know this, I thought it was stagnant.
I still won't use it but that's just me.
Open Source is truly amazing
My hats off to all these people who contribute their time and energy to make all this happen...Volumio, Rune, Foobar, Squeeze---, etc. etc. etc. Even the good folks of the Linux world Ubuntu, Fedora et.al.
I tried to talk Roon into going Open Source but they are slow to move in that direction. Open source would fix all of their Spotify issues and bring a whole lot of functionality to their product. Just look at Android.
I remember eating a hamburger next to the CEO of Red Hat in NYC during the first or second linux expo.
There's lots of great peeps out there.
IMHO it is outdated and band-aid crap.
What does Volumio do better? I'm open to changing if there is value in doing so.
Understand that I use iPeng on three iOS devices which allows them to be used as either remote or player to LMS - and they are used regularly in that manner.
I have tried Volumio since its initial release date. Its always been super buggy and slow when/if it works.
If everything worked it would be great, but as it stands in a seemingly ALPHA state its un-usable
If everything worked it would be great...
Assuming it worked perfectly, what does it deliver that LMS doesn't? I confess that I'm not much of a visionary in terms of added functionality that I might find useful.
What new tricks does it play?
It offers nothing the LMS does not, in fact it just recently got the ability to stream Spotify...only.
So your choices are your own library, links to internet streams and Spotify.
Thats it
LMS supports Spotify and Tidal even though I'm not a subscriber to either. Aren't those the most prominent choices for renting music?
I am a bit disappointed, however, they dropped XM support since wifey and I use that in our cars.
I stream from my phone in my car with Tunein radio..... Much more choices and Free..... My XM will be dumped when the subscription expires in a couple months.Much Better Fidelity with Tunein Radio than XM... XM is probably the worst.
As far as other Choices for Streaming.. There is Deezer, Tunein Radio, Pandora and probably a lot more that I don't listen to. The point is that if it streams LMS will probably be able to.... Someone has written a Pluggin etc. etc.....
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Which is why we have it.
Sure, wifey's Boxster and my Ridgeline both support phone access, but I'd much rather not futz with my phone while driving. :)
I set my phone up before I start driving, and it stays there all day. Do you switch stations a lot on XM?..............I didn't.
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I like being able to just get in the car and easily select from a number of favorite stations without having to take my phone/wallet out of my pocket.
I can easily switch between FM/XM/USB flash drive using controls on the steering wheel.
"I can easily switch between FM/XM/USB flash drive using controls on the steering wheel."
I can easily select between FM/AUX port (My Phone)/USB flash drive using the controls on the steering wheel too.
Plus --- I don't have to pay for XM and Plus --- I get any radio station in the world, as well as Spotify, Pandora, Tunein, etc. etc. etc....
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I get any radio station in the world, as well as Spotify, Pandora, Tunein, etc. etc. etc...
My wife enjoys the Broadway and Comedy channels. I typically listen to the 60s,70s,80s and Spa channels.
What radio stations provide that focused ad-free content?
Tunein Radio....
http://tunein.com/radio/Comedy-c25212376/
Or whatever else.
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Same here, my wife listens to Japanese radio stations in her car. Her phone and car sink up as soon as she gets in and the music starts automatically. Phone just stays in her purse. Calls etc all voice.
LMS still supports more than every other software ie Roon, Volumio, Rune et.al
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Perfect.You are the perfect help to create a good tutorial
See my updated video and see if you can't follow along.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwj6-mpMC_g
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