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In Reply to: RE: Any Classical Lovers Using Roon? posted by PAR on January 31, 2017 at 18:23:47
Thanks to everyone for your comments and suggestions.
My preference is for an application that will rip a disc and automatically tag it correctly including cover art. Further, that the resulting rip and metadata format can be understood by any (or most) players.
My current regime of ripping using the standard combination of dbpoweramp with Pure Tunes almost meets that criterion. In fact as time has gone by its accuracy has improved so that now the required manual interventions have reduced aside from where my own preferences talke precednce e.g. selection of appropriate genre. Pure Tunes also gives me the ability to amend metadata files away from the ripping process e.g for FLAC downloads.
The resulting FLAC data file is more or less what is required. However, even though all of the data is there and all is in a standard format, media players either do not display it all (or at least the relevant fields) or use elements in a way that is not great from a classical music enthusiast's viewpoint . In fact I believe that players really need a selectable classical music view rather than attempting to fit everything into an Artist/Album/Track format only suitable for popular genres.
Anyway I will stick with JR MC unless I find something better. It still seems the most flexible in regard to playing different audio formats.
Meanwhile I will continue to visit Roon's community forum from time to time to see how it is progressing and if it reaches a point where I want to investigate further. It still seems that you need to be a Tidal subscriber to get most value from it and I don't expect any similar relationship with Qobuz for us Europeans.
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"The resulting FLAC data file is more or less what is required. However, even though all of the data is there and all is in a standard format, media players either do not display it all (or at least the relevant fields) or use elements in a way that is not great from a classical music enthusiast's viewpoint . In fact I believe that players really need a selectable classical music view rather than attempting to fit everything into an Artist/Album/Track format only suitable for popular genres.
Anyway I will stick with JR MC unless I find something better. It still seems the most flexible in regard to playing different audio formats."
As the screenshot shows, you can create a custom view that is quite well suited to browsing classical music.
With some changes to the way I populated tags and another change, I got a satisfactory way to browse classical music on an 80Gb iPod.
my blog: http://carsmusicandnature.blogspot.com/
Many thanks. Interesting. What JR MC version are you using? I have 22 which doesn't resemble your GUI but perhaps there is a skin that does?
Anyway I will have a play around with it tomorrow although most of my interfacing with JR MC is via Gizmo but I don't think that is customisable. Too late to do anything today as I am just off to go to a concert at the RFH (Paavo Jarvi/LPO in Neilsen).
Create a new view, use "Panes" and you get indeed this iTunes style layout
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"What JR MC version are you using?
MC 21. I also have mc 22 installed but I usually wait until JRiver finishes development of a version before I use it for real. The screenshot was taken years ago when I was using an earlier version of JRiver.
"I have 22 which doesn't resemble your GUI but perhaps there is a skin that does?"
The skin is called iTunes. I added a stop button.
The view shown is a panes view. Each pane initially lists the values of one tag. When you click on a value for a tag like Sub_genre, the other panes are updated to show only the tags that occur in files that have the value you selected (for Sub_genre for example.) You can select values for panes in any order. The list of files in the lower part of the window are those that meet all the selection criteria you have chosen in the panes above.
"Anyway I will have a play around with it tomorrow although most of my interfacing with JR MC is via Gizmo but I don't think that is customisable."
You can define views specifically for Gizmo (and the other Android devices) in Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced. Click on "Customize views for...".
When you start Gizmo, you should see a list of the views you have created displayed.
You can also use any of the views you create in Standard view. When I start Gizmo, I see the word "Audio" as the first in the list of views. I don't remember when it is in that list by default or whether I added Audio in the "Customize view dialog. in Gizmo. When I tab the symbol above "Audio", I see a list of the views I crewwated in standard view.
Of course, Gizmo can't display the panes view as on the screenshot. Not enough screen space on a tablet or smartphone. So it displays lists one at a time.
There is a lot of very useful functionality in JRiver. Don't assume that what you see by default is all there is.
my blog: http://carsmusicandnature.blogspot.com/
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