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In Reply to: RE: Have you tried upsampling to DSD 512? posted by AbeCollins on December 23, 2016 at 09:56:38
your PS Audio Nu Wave DSD Dac!
If the up sampled DSD sounds artificial to you, why not get one of those PCM R to R Dacs?
Ahendler has one, can't think of the name, he swears by it.
I recently directly compared my Mytek 192/DSD, Lampizator Euforia DSD only, and Sony Z1.
The Sony was SO much better, sounded "Right" where the others didn't, not really even close, to me.
I would be smiling when the Sony was on, frowning when the other 2 were...
My Marantz UD 7007 was (is) in the shop, so it cleared some room to do the comparison on my Den System.
Native or Upsampled, it's great, at DSD 128.
Follow Ups:
My PS Audio NuWave DSD DAC does not convert to DSD.From the Stereophile Review (and it's also on the PS Audio website):
..." the NuWave DSD and the DirectStream are very different DACs. The NuWave DSD does not convert incoming signals to DSD . It does use a dedicated DAC chip (a Sabre32 Hyperstream, from ESS Technology). And while the NuWave does employ a programmable........ Both DACs use passive filtering at the output...."
Yes, I know how much you love your Sony. I returned mine not because of it's sound but because I disliked it's constraining software and somewhat clunky (IMHO) user interface and control App on the tablet. But I've grown to expect the flexibility of a computer based system. Just me perhaps.
Edits: 12/23/16
But HQPlayer does, which is where this part of the thread started.
But, for some reason, that does not sound good to you on your PSAudio New Wave DAC. Who knows why?
In the $2000 price range the Audio-GD Master 7 does it for me. All those Burr Brown PCM1704U-K's ladder DACing along in parallel just seem to sound right to me.
That does NOT mean that HQPlayer up-sampling those PCM files would not sound good with a new ESS9028 based DAC, especially if up-sampled to DSD 512.
Depending on how much the soon-to-be-announced Singxer SU-1 XMOS XU208 USB Digital interface capable of 512 DSD costs(current model is less that $400), it plus the new GUSTARD without USB (currently $800) might be a reasonably priced alternative.
IF I don't have to buy a new Windows 10 box to use HQPlayer at DSD 512, of course. =:-0
But HQPlayer does, which is where this part of the thread started.
Yes, but I was asked about the NuWave DSD so I replied and corrected oldmkvi's misunderstanding of this DAC.
But, for some reason, that does not sound good to you on your PSAudio New Wave DAC.
I never said it does not sound good. I said I prefer hi-res PCM 24/96 to DSD, and this has nothing to do with my PS Audio DAC as I have listened to DSD on other DACs and other systems.
This circles around to my other comment that I believe the overall DAC design and 'voicing' are more important than which new whiz bang DAC chip of the month is used. I've heard ESS Sabre based DACs that sound like crap and others that sound wonderful! Go figure.... Oh, I already did. It's not the DAC chip, it's the implementation skill in the hands of a good audio designer. ;-)
But who knows what HQPlayer upsamping PCM to DSD 512 would sound like with a suitable DAC to convert said stream to analog?
Not me.
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