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In Reply to: RE: Sonore - nt posted by Sprezza Tura on December 24, 2014 at 13:47:48
It would be interesting to see one of these stripped down and evaluated for design, component and build quality. It would also be interesting to see various noise measurements. Without some of this information there's no way to know if this is more than marketing smoke.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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As it goes, - it is incredibly better, rich with detail, and good technical information compared to just about any other industry.
When comparisons are done, - the high end stands out as exemplary...
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Let's not get hysterical. Sonore is basically a two man operation. They place no space ads, they have had no reviews done that I know of outside of Computer Audiophile, and I can tell you first hand the build quality is phenomenal, and it is one of the two best digital front ends I have ever heard, the other being the Bryston BDP-2.There margin absolutely fair considering what they put into the design. The Rendu is $1400, and the Signature Rendu is $2900.
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Pity they don't do 230V 50Hz.
Many PC inmates have tried to improve MB and SPDIF performance here. I know I have. Conviction computer audio audio practitioners don't like it.
Some MAC inmates started with software player suites costing $1500 to improve sound. For sevral years some of these have pooh-poohed hardware improvements. They are still going on about usb power issues and Thunderbolt connections for audio files.
One poster wants to see pictures and another wants someone else to strip down a Sonore.
Sad but Merry Xmas.
"....Conviction computer audio audio practitioners don't like it."
lol. I'm not sure if I got the exact meaning on that, but maybe you're some kind of under appreciated computer audio revolutionary before his time.
you don't know what I am saying, and you should if you'd understood my exchanges with others, then why are you commenting? Hot air?!
Conviction audio is the phrase for those who have decided what governs sound quality and will query as potentially wrong any other factors that may be proposed on the basis of sound technical reasoning or extended listening experience with really high quality systems.
I would classify you as one of them.
Yes, the lengths some will go to and the money some will spend to try to mold a POS consumer computer Into a high grade file playback system is amazing.Power supplies, software, tranquility bases, power conditioners, the list go s on.
You may want to drop a note to Sonore and see if they do 230. I was told they have shipped units to Europe.
P.S. I see 220V is an option.
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propagated in order to overly praise the personal computer, while at the same time running down "high end audio" manufacturing. It's fascinating that these same (unreasonable) criticisms are not levied upon amplifiers, speakers, turntables, & (especially) CD players.
Especially when DIY destructions of commercial computers are SOOOOO expensive and fraught with many challenges & issues with complex interactions, & difficulties in identifying priority of what should be modified.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
It is because as I have stated before..there is no destination for the PC/MAC crowd. Their pain is their pleasure. The wack a mole approach is beautiful agony.
Why "settle" for a purpose built for audio device, which solves many of the problems of the computer audio chain, for as you say, far fewer dollars in the end, and have spare time to cultivate, manage, and listen to your digital music collection when you can obsess over power supplies, USB ports, McSoftware, and other distractions?
Easy answer on why the same venom is not hurled at speakers, CD players, and amps. You CAN buy an off the shelf computer, run iTunes, and connect the thin to a USB DAC and get passable sound.
To "roll your own" with speakers requires quite a bit of skill, and decent layout on parts. With amps and disc players, good capacitors and resistors, cases, and transports are not cheap by any standard and the skill to the make all these parts work together is not to be underestimated.
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"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
The Tranquility Base and power conditioner would benefit the Sonore as well. I'm not in either camp as both computers and dedicated servers get the job done. But a dedicated server well done has some advantages.
I have been busy submitting my next review on the Atmosphere. A very unique product that will drive the Hydrogen Audio crowd nuts.
Merry Christmas to all of my friends here at AA.
it has no capacity to store and deliver files, and there's no way that it can modified to do so.
It is a digital file transport/player.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
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There are different types of "servers". To be a "file server" one needs to store and retrieve files. There are "name servers" that perform name to address translation. There are "DHCP servers" that manage LAN addresses. Way back when there used to be "terminal servers" that interfaced character terminals to local area networks, etc...
A server is a running instance of an application (software) capable of accepting requests from the client and giving responses accordingly. Servers can run on any computer including dedicated computers, which individually are also often referred to as "the server". In many cases, a computer can provide several services and have several servers running. The advantage of running servers on a dedicated computer is security. For this reason most of the servers are daemon processes and designed in that they can be run on specific computer(s).
Servers operate within a client-server architecture. Servers are computer programs running to serve the requests of other programs, the clients. Thus, the server performs some tasks on behalf of clients. It facilitates the clients to share data, information or any hardware and software resources.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Thanks Tony. Some of our friends here are, well.....
Of course none of these five transports under discussion are servers.
Not sure why Tony is bothering, or you're piling on.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
"Not sure why Tony is bothering, or you're piling on.""There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Merc, I always appreciate your even handedness.
Ah, the Atmosphere...heheh..Peter Brueniger has done a video on his website with it and that has caused quite a stir....good luck!!
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