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In Reply to: RE: cPlay - the open source high-end audio player using ASIO posted by cics on May 05, 2008 at 13:31:58
Don't know if this will work for anyone else but maybe there is something that will help.
I decided to follow Mr. Wong's use of FAT instead of NTFS so I began with a fresh minimal nLite install.
I should say that I intially (just for fun) tried to insert the micor-shell into my exisitng install with no luck. This did give me a hint as to what to do next. I was told that WINDOWS would not load because c_950.nls was missing. I copied this from my main machine and made sure it was in the registry (where I had previously deleted it). This was not successful.
So I began the new install.
It is amazing as many of these as I have done that I still mess them up. This is due to my incessant obsession with looking for short-cuts. After a few of these I decided to take my time and be methodical.
Shortly after getting minlogon, cMP/PLAY and JULI@ installed I did Mr. Wong's SECURITY and SAM deletions. I also did what remains to be done of the the original cMP optimizations. Most of this stuff is taken care of by file and registry deletions so much of it is now a waste of time.
I had done this a couple of times and then tried to insert the micro-shell and it would not work. The last time (the one that worked!) I remembered Serge's protocol for inserting files from his BIG FILE SUBSTITUTION tweak and thought I should try that.
I did and it worked. I substituted Mr. Wong's files in the first group specified by Serge which happened to include shell32.
It works well. The only slightly strange thing is when you minimize and mazimize the cPLAY screen there is a little stuttering of the playback. Big deal.
The strange thing is how much trouble I seem to have going further. All I have done to the system registry so far is to remove controlset2, root out of ENUM and most of the media/audio/video entries. I have done very little file deletion. When I try to go further (which is still taking away big chunks) I cannot boot. Back to SNAPSHOT ...
I know this will be overcome but it is frustrating having this huge WINDOWS isntallation at the moment. (no jokes riboge)
Tonight I will do further file substitutions per Serge using Mr. Wong's files and see if I can use the minimized SOFTWARE and DEFAULT hives.
Follow Ups:
If you can't get it smaller in over 4 hours...
I have tried again and again and can't get these to work even with the other substitutions. You are amazing being able to keep this up (here I go again) through such labors as starting over FAT and then the frustrations that are following.
How can the file/disk format make this difference? And if it does, shouldn't there be some "translation" application out there that converts between NTFS and FAT in a way that maintains all functions?
This is supposed to do it without data loss--we'll see about function loss. It's demo/free version works on converting partitions up to 8GB.
http://www.aomeitech.com/n2f/download.html
I will try it and hope a couple of you will, too. Who knows if this will bridge the gap between nLite installs in ntfs and Jack's shell32 et al?
The converter's site says "Aomei Ntfs2Fat32 Free Edition can work on Windows 7/Vista/XP/2000/2003/2008, but it only supports converting the NTFS partition maximum 8GB to FAT32 for testing"
After conversion, which was very fast, all that was required was to repair boot files with EasyBCD. It ran fine as it was but with Jack's shell32 and shlwapi substituted I got the same error message as I had gotten when I was NTFS. My nLite installation has all the mods and tweaks but only limited slimming, especially to the registry. So that may make a difference but it is hard to see why it should. I have substituted most of the other files with no problem.
You made sure you included the c_950.nls file and made sure this shows up in SYSTEM/Nls - can't remember what comes next but it is easy to figure out once you are there.
Did you include, at the time of substitution ALL of the files Serge recommended changing at the same time as shell32?
I think that was key.
Wish I had known about this YESTERDAY!!! The converter that is. It never occurred to me to LOOK for such a thing! Good to know ...
sounds to me it won't do this neat trick unless you buy a copy.
Could be worth the money!!!!
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