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In Reply to: RE: cPlay - the open source high-end audio player using ASIO posted by cics on May 05, 2008 at 13:31:58
Well, inmates, believe it or not, but with YOUR HELP I have it done now. Windows is only 18,5 mb. It became possible after I had castrated the ttf fonts. Thanks to Serge Mihaylov for his idea!
Anyone, who wants, can e-mail me to get the fonts. (3 files - arial, micross and l_10646 I haven't touched marlett - no use.)
Now, security and crypt dlls won't let go anyway, sadly, But to THINK that Rick managed to kill SVCHOST!!!!!
I am happy to know such people as You are!
Serge.
Edits: 02/03/12Follow Ups:
I am finally at 19.5 mb!! But root (with all the legacy stuff)
within enum keeps coming back. Dang!
minimizing the FONTS, as absurd as it sounds that such a thing would make a difference, makes a difference.
Now to figure out how the HELL Serge has 600kB less WINDOWS than I have!
Serge has asked me to to assist in distributing these so if you would like them send an email to my "moniker" and I will gladly forward them.
I still am trying to get to your level but I seem to recall setupapi is about 400-500kb.
I compared your file sizes and quickly realized there was something I had missed.
Went back to your files and found most of the difference.
I am ashamed I did not use them as soon as I got them. In the interim between you bringing this idea up and actually RELEASING them I thought I had found the same ones.
Also, had no idea we could get rid of vga and vga256 until I tried it. There is no need for those things. Now I want to see if this means something more can be removed from the registry.
Thanks very much. I should have known ...
Was there are prerequisite for deleting the vga's? I tried and got a bsod. FYI I shrunk security but not sam.
Edits: 02/05/12
As Mihaylov says every system is different and inexplicable different at that!
Very strange.
Nonetheless, I was SURE those were needed files!
.
That's not a Toy... IT'S A TOOL !!
Hello, everybody. I have already posted that I don't have setupapi in my windows folder, and it doesn't reappear, nor it is required to work. I can attribute it only to Lynx-Juli@ difference, as I can't remember any problem removing this file from regular retail version of XP or the VL version I am using now. VL version, however, allows to remove out of box experience (oobe)from nLite install. i do have win.ini file reappearing each time I delete it and it's a good practice to delete it if you are restoring the "burned" registry. I have a folder called config recent where I keep the latest working hives. If I have rendered my system unbootable by too brave registry deletions or while experimenting with kernel file, I delete the real config folder, delete win.ini, repopulate the config folder from config recent AND LOAD SYSTEM HIVE into another Windows' reg editor to create a log with a time stamp in it. Then I reboot, and it works perfectly. This way I have my cmp windows just like an empty shell, a cadaver, if You allow such comparison, with a registry of my choice to be its mind.
About the files' sizes. I AM SURE, that while giving all attention to registry, many have forgotten to delete EVERYTHING from EVERY file in reshacker. I have done it even with drivers, as sys files are mere dlls. Even my Lyns driver is hacked free of almost all strings. I don't have any code texts inside my file and even version info. All this crap is mapped into memory, btw. And this is how we come to fonts.
Fonts are (in computer) not just a table that allows You to print by pressing corresponding keys. There are 1674 glyphs (bitmaps in the form of a letter or sign) in every Unicode otl-ttf system font, add to it apart from bitmaps, however tiny, their VECTOR (real) incarnation. All this crap is constantly being held in memory, as these are SYSTEM fonts + their screen doubles from screen fon files like 8514fixed, sys or oem. Reducing what was possible, and I left only barely enough for normal lettering+ computer conventional glyphs like {\+=!? <> , we have a reduction comparable, if not exceeding the shell32 and user32, thus the effect is so prominent even now, with every, even big tweak, bringing less and less in sq - there is practically (almost) nothing to improve.
I think, that should we have our fonts reduced at say tweak part 10, everyone would cry WOAHHH!!! (though, I may be wrong, it's too late to check now).
So, this is my opinion and my folder.
Serge.
P.S. In order that Your screenshots be more sharp, I'd recommend to reopen the bmp files, that You create in MS Paint and save As jpg. They will be 5-8 times lighter and won't cause problems with AA.
JULI@ and LYNX require different files.
He has to keep some stuff we do not need.
Dont know how you and Rick do it. I am tapped out at 21.9 mb.
With Serge's font files I am at 19.1 mB.
Serge I would also appreciate if you sent me these.
:)
Please send at your earliest convenience!
Will have to return the WATCHDOG to the registry and hear the difference.
It was no trick deleting svchost. Just did it and the machine worked!
So what is Mr. Wong doing to rid us of WATCHDOG?
Check Your e-mail, sir!
besides, removing a 1 mb+ of raster (bitmapped) gyphs works like a cleaned shell32 to me (well, not really That strong, but the effect is audible).
Serge.
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