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In Reply to: RE: cPlay - the open source high-end audio player using ASIO posted by cics on May 05, 2008 at 13:31:58
and it doesn't come back.
Something was said to this effect, that the registry would rebuild itself.
Hasn't yet.
Whether that has anything to do with adding the switch /minint (per Mihaylov) I have no idea. But that did allow deleting setupapi.log and the .logs within config and they stay away. I have noticed that those config logs will come back after working the registry through LOAD HIVE in my "other" computer which is interesting but not surprising.
I deleted everything that could be deleted. There are some items within CLASS that even with asking for every kind of permission will not allow deleteion. Same with ROOT within ENUM. But everything else can be made to go away.
Whether this has resulted in sonic nirvana I cannot tell yet. If there is a change it is subtle but empirically to me it has to be better (doesn't it?).
Follow Ups:
Serge you said: '...Take care to hack win32k correctly...' What does correctly specifically mean?
"Twas the night before Christmas and all through the house
not a creature was stirring not even a mouse
(thats because we deleted the drivers in Steppe 16...)
So much for my lame joke...guess it does not translate well.
Theo! And Everybody! Wish You All The Best, Inmates!
You can see in the right top corner of the pic the piece of a screenshot that shows win32k.sys. It's a mistake. What I mean is, certainly, winsrv with the described changes - only fontdir and fonts resource remains. Sorry. A typo.
Serge
Edits: 12/25/11
with setup/api? I have deleted it "ages" ago see the pic with all such files found on my 3 hdds. It went off at part 19 and never came back.
Also I have loaded system and software hives and deleted CS02, got a 1,5 mb hive and the Lynx security cab won't let me start cplay. The thing that causes the registry to rebuild uses cset 02 ar a refference set, seemingly. I believe it may be this:
HKLM-000 (the loaded hive) -microsoft-windows-current version-reliability-ShutdownDoStateSnapshot the value is (2).
You must be reading my thoughts. I have posted a similiar thing yesterday, but deleted as I wanted to make sure once again, trying to delete it different ways. The system crashed after all. Rebuilding now for the third time in 24 hours. I have, btw the same problem with shell32 after hacking, but I don't care. Files that Serge Mihaylove said he'd failed to hack, are easily hacked with the same program, namely hall 130kb, ntoskernel - 1,98 mb, kernel32.dll - 553 kb, advapi.dll - 496 kb. The trick is to have a /noguiboot in your boot.ini.
I have hacked also all *.sys drivers - the are just the same DLLS.
Serge.
I envy your prowess with soldering things...
Edits: 12/24/11
You said: '...ALSO Kernel files contain background bitmap THAT ARE USED by logonui, so they can be removed only with /noguiboot option, there is also rle animation code and winlogo rle inside and a lot A LOT of text. Stripped from this sh*t the sound of ks, and kernel-hal files is akin to a minlogon tweak in it;s power...'
By kernel files do you mean only kernel32, ntoskrnl, hall?
And just to confirm you delete everything accessible in these, correct?
setupapi.log would always return after I deleted until I used Mihaylov's suggestion of /minint. So would all of the .log files in config. I am surprised you did not have this happen.
Your RESOURCE HACKER files seem impossibly small in some cases. I deleted everything with the exception of VERSION and those entries with all of the numbers and mine is 100kB larger than yours. I tried /noguiboot on my "other" machine where I modify my cMP install and this makes no difference here as to what one can do with RESOURCE HACKER. Did I misunderstand what you meant? Also, are you deleting EVERYTHING from these files? Even the entries with all of the numbers?
I did not realize until your note that one can "hack" the .sys files. They do not come up when you ask for the drivers folder. Today I looked and see there is no way they will come up when the default file types are .dll and .exe. A HA!!!
So tell us more of what you are taking away.
And I no longer think shell32 is responsible for my slow start up (I assumed you were referring to that). I had to reinsert the full sized shell32 to get cMP to recognize extra hard drives and it was just as slow with that. I must assume my assault on the default file is responsible for this now. I left almost nothing.
Next week I will try to figure out how to do a screen shot and show my registry - default, software, and system.
Greg Stewart was wanting to get rid of the JULI@ controller and this is easily done within the registry.
It seems I haven't shown the a-n files here they are. NO SETUPAPI. I have a folder Hacked windows, that I use to poulate EMPTY system 32 folder from another machine.
I install nLited (my own version of) vl windows with no OOBE, install cmp-cplay, awe it, minlogon it, run registry bats around, run registry mechanic and while it's opened I run deletion bats. Then I reboot, enter cmp, set it to start cmp, reboot but from another hdd. Exterminate all remaining folders and files, except System32\config, populate with files from hacked windows. Voila!
I want now to redo everything, because not all registry tweaks were done by the bats. Service group order and such, Media, media properties smth, device ennumerations, that I remember only visually...
Will report.
Serge.
USER32.DLL that causes the disappearance in cmp restart yes-no button and a slow start. I have worked with it long, even tried to get the cmp buttons back by reimporting resource, but it won't so, be it.
ALSO Kernel files contain background bitmap THAT ARE USED by logonui, so they can be removed only with /noguiboot option, there is also rle animation code and winlogo rle inside and a lot A LOT of text. Stripped from this sh*t the sound of ks, and kernel-hal files is akin to a minlogon tweak in it;s power.
Serge.
P.S. I remove EVEN VERSION. my files are naked, just the way I like mermaids to appear.
...and it would not boot or should I say it just hung for 30 seconds during the boot process. So I retreated. Is this boot delay normal? If yes how long does it last?I did add noguiboot to the boot.ini file but at the beginning and not the end of the list.
Edits: 12/27/11
not sure how our files compare but as I mentioned to Serge, my machine, after leaving the BIOS screen will first give you the LOADING OS screen then go black, it blinks a couple of times and then after 25 seconds or so I get the blue screen, about five seconds later the cursor appears and then momentarily later the cMP screen.
The first time I thought for sure it was not going to work. I walked away for a moment and came back and THERE IT WAS!.
Ok I will retry. Thanks rick
...but for only kernel32 bitmap hacking. I could not get advapi and ntoskrnl hacked versions to boot.I did get all bitmap stuff out of ntoskrnl but only that.
Good sq pop.
Edits: 12/27/11
in all files, even the entries with all of the numbers. I only left untouched entries in the following:
advapi.dll - RCDATA - 102 as I don't know what is this mumbo-jumbo
user32.dll -Cursor - 52-1033 and 54-1033 and cursor group - 100-1033 and 102-1033
winsrv.dll - FONTDIR-1033 and fonts 1001-1033 1002-1033
BTW ks.sys is 137 kb.
See the pic of all system32 folder with all files hacked and their corresponding sizes. Take care to hack win32k correctly. Also on the pic expanded completely. (top right.
Serge.
I am not hiding anything. To tell the truth, I was scared at first to do it, waiting for smb to be so kind as to send me already hacked files. Nobody did. So... Also about Mihaylov's idea to hack the fonts IS GREAT. The fonts ARE residing in memory always. I know it from Adobe Illustrator and CorelDraw I work with. Why do you write it's too expensive? You mean effort or the price of the program? As for the price of the program, I can do it myself and you will get the files.
Serge.
1st the bad news I was not able to replicate Steppe's strategy to delete (almost) everything. Every attempt resulted in a no boot or gross instability (boot screen goes crazy). I am talking kernel32, ntoskrnl, advapi32 and shell32. So if any of you are going to attempt to strip these files have Snapshot or SS equivalent handy because you will use it. The only thing that worked for me was Jack's recommendation to eliminate all menu stuff in ntoskrnl and all kernel32 bitmap stuff. Good news is that this is zero short of fantastic ... sound quality wise. The soundstage is enormous, bass is real, highs pristine. Airy, airy and airy. I have not yet attempted user32 stuff (per Jack) but that is next. WRT shell32 I have bottomed out at 2.497 mb.
So as noted above I was able to get shell32 down to a 2.497 mb level but realized I still had all the Dialogue stuff still intact. Recall that initially while hacking shell32 I took out all the Dialogue stuff (and it booted fine) but I lost the function to ADD / REMOVE folders from the cmp screen. So with Mihaylov's tireless effort to help he recommended reinstalling Dialogue 1079. Ok so now after reinstalling 1079 (along with all the Dialogues) but after other shell32 hacking I realized I had an opportunity to go back & hack away at all the Dialogue (except of course 1079) so I did. And it would not boot. Almost as if these things were interacting and some combinations work and some don't. So its really a crap shoot when you get into these system32 hacks.
Edits: 12/30/11
I would greatly appreciate a gift of minimized FONTS!!!!
That program was seventy euros.
Now to your RESOURCE HACKING comments - my WIN32K already looks like your screenshot before I do anything so I am not sure what you are recommending to do.
I just went through and deleted almost everything out of my files and got a HARD ERROR at start up. Restored back to where I was before and just played with ntoskrnl and WIN32K by themselves and got the same message. I deleted the unneeded language stuff from WIN32K on the compiler side and this must not be how to do it. I will keep trying.
I am in the midst of concetrating on registry so I think I will hold off on this until I am satisfied with where that goes.
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