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In Reply to: RE: Liberate more precious RAM with Icon+resource cleanup of shell32.dll and explorer.exe (RESHACK) posted by nagual19 on December 11, 2011 at 03:03:28
Thanks Mario for that you reminded me of such possibility to tweak files ;). Now I tweaked 39 files in system32. The Windows's size is 29.1 MB.
The size of shell32.dll is 2194KB. "Add folders" in cMP settings works fine! To upload english shell32.dll and I will tweak it this feature work.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
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Dear Serge(s) and co-workers!
It really makes happy that this tweak gets so well received here. I now think about it as a natural progress of the 'Art of Windows tweaking'. The improvement this shell32 reduction seems to make is in the good tradition of minlogon, because these very files are used by Windows all the time and are not 'peripheral' components like many files we have deleted in the meantime. This was also what made me look inside shell32 from SP2 Embedded Pack to see if any smaller, but it wasn't.A few ideas:
I want to get somewhere the Win2k SP0 shell32, open it up and analyze how it's smaller than XP version. Because MS always has to think about compatibility when developing new versions. And this brings some structure in tweaking. Remember I have posted a link where some nice tweakers talk about using W2k versions of these files. But I dont make to want a frankenstein Windows (at least YET)Now Serge (Mihaylov), did you just delete Icons, Bitmaps and AVIs or also Dialogs? I had already the feeling, that we can make shell even smaller by deleting almost all dialogs (except the ones that get called from cMP plattform, namely via the add-remove library buttons. Of course, that many if not all Windows files could be opened with resource editors and made smaller (Your are at 29 and counting? :))
Another idea, if You open up the section -Accelerators- These are used to define Windows Shortcut keys (We all know the Windows key Strg+C Strg+V etc). It could very well be that Windows is constantly polling (our deleted) keyboard drivers, if any of these keys are pressed - another disturbance in shell! Possible!
I want to look into this further. To all Friends asking for my current version of shell32, I will of course send it. But You are encouraged to try yourself, that way we may discover more than a single person could. It is really quite easy. I am amazed at the speed Mihaylov is at... which lets me wish I had more time for this -
Mario
Edits: 12/12/11
=did you just delete Icons, Bitmaps and AVIs or also Dialogs? I had already the feeling, that we can make shell even smaller by deleting almost all dialogs (except the ones that get called from cMP plattform, namely via the add-remove library buttons.=
Mario, your feeling did not trick you ;).
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
Wow that's fantastic. Is it possible to make some of these files available to us even at the risk again of maybe not working in our XP?
These are russian files (with russian language) and they are not suitable for English xp. Upload the English shell32.dll and I will tweak it.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
tweak winmm.dll in such a way that it will only work with wave audio just remove midi and the rest of the crap inside?
Also, do you need an already tweaked or intact english shell32 file? I can send you both through e-mail. Can You, please, post the list of 39 files to tweak? Did You work with reshack or resource tuner?
Serge.
Hi Serge!
I work with Restorator.
I need the intact english shell32 file.
The list of 39 files to tweak will be later perhaps (these are largest files from system32).
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
Don't try to hack following files:
hal.dll
ntoskrnl.exe
user32.dll
win32k.sys
because apparently the system checks their integrity.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
Hi Mihaylov,
Somehow, I was able to remove all the Bitmaps inside ntoskrnl.exe. I also removed all Menus from user32.dll, others couldn't be removed. They were working on 2 computers respectively.
You may wish to use other hacking software to achieve the results.
Hi Jack!
OK. I will try again.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
Works!
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
What software do you use which displays multiple dlls?
Jack, look here:
http://www.AudioAsylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/10/100161.html
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/
My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H, Intel Core i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Liv
using alternate switch in boot.ini, but the tweaked hal and/or kernel should go under different names. If interested, I can possibly re-find these switches.
Serge.
Edits: 12/12/11
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