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...when the 'recognized' Founders of Rock--
Elvis, Little Richard,
The Big Bopper,and Bill Haley
were in their late teens,in1950,51,52,53,and 1954
WHO were they
hearing on the RADIO,---
playing those blues and jazz riffs
on the guitar backing up
his wife's singing??---
it was Les Paul.-----!!!!
Hi to all,Gentle smile.
It is probably easier to ask why President Shrub and most of your media can't understand why some people are pissed off with America?
Warmest,
Timbo in OZ
Elvis!Look guys, find out about Otis Blackwell!
Two references 'The picador book of Jazz and Blues' 1995
ISBN 0 330 34445 5'Riding on a Blue Note: Jazz and American Pop' Gary Giddens -
Oxford Uni Press-NY.warmly
tim
hee hee.
Rock It In Rhythm" Tampa Red 1938
Rock Me Daddy" Georgia White 1937
Rockin' In Rhythm" Duke Ellington 1928,
Rock Me In The Groove" Sweet Georgia Brown 1941
Rock Me Mama" Banjo Ikey Robinson 1929
Rock It For Me" Chick Webb w. Ella Fitzgerald 1938
Rock That Thing" Lil Johnson 1929
Rocking & Rolling" Robinson's Knights Of Rest 1930
Rock Me Mama" Big Joe Turner 1941
Rockin' And Swingin'" Don Albert 1936 (instrumental)
I Want To Rock" Cab Calloway 1942Emmett
They recorded "Rock and Roll" in 1934.Or maybe it was Trixie Smith who cut "My Daddy Rocks Me (With One Steady Roll)" in 1922.
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There were records that were recognizably rock 'n' roll music in the 1940s. Have you ever heard of Wynonie Harris or Louis Jordan or T-Bone Walker or Joe Turner? Elvis didn't learn blues and R & B from Les Paul, he learned them from black radio and black night clubs on Beale Street. Hie entire live performing style was practically stolen from Harris. Little Richard was already making jump blues records in the early '50s when you assert that he was being schooled by Les Paul. Bill Haley didn't need to listen to Les Paul records, Haley cut his first rock 'n' roll record, a cover of Joe Turner's "Shake, Rattle, and Roll", in 1951 .I suggest that you get a copy of Nick Tosches' wonderful Unsung Heroes of Rock and Roll , it'll correct your mistaken notions of R 'n' R history.
But Les Paul was a big influence on Jeff Beck & Jimmy Page.
Craig
So ?
Don't agree with that statement at all. Page played a Les Paul guitar at times. That's about the only link as far as I could see. Having heard Les Paul as a child, and now forty years later at Irridium a couple of months ago, the statement is even more silly. He is very entertaining at a spry 87 years old!!The Les Paul guitar guitar has the most wicked sustain of any electric guitar in MHO, and the rock guitar style of the 60's is pretty much based on big sustain. Les Pauls style of playing, then and today uses none of the sustain that his guitars are capable of producing.
Rock is a development of Black rhythm and blues. Go back to your studies. Get something like the Rhino R&B series or the Time Life History of Rock and Roll if you want enlightenment.I mean Elvis Presley basically lifted, riffs and all, from Black artists when he started out.
Les Paul was an innovative and influential guitarist, but certainly not the "Father of Rock and Roll". There were many artists and groups who contributed, so there is no one "father".The great influences and seminal artists include Johnny Otis and Louis Jordan listed below, and you can certainly make valid arguments in favor of Little Richard and Bill Haley. You must also include Chuck Berry (and his mentor Johnnie Johnson) and The Orioles. If you're looking for the father of R'n'R guitar, don't forget Robert Johnson and the other blues guitarists of the 30's.
Elvis Presley and The Big Bopper don't belong on the list. Nor does Jerry Lee Lewis. And Rockabilly is a blending of R'n'R with country, so no country or Rockabilly artists can be considered as fathers of R'n'R.
Ted
So many Black artists contributed, it's hard for me to pick one "father" or mother, for that matter. The artists you mention are certainly worthy of respect and admiration. I acknowledge Robert Johnson's seminal influence. My leanings are more toward the electrified Muddy Waters and Little Walter axis of blues players. They're all essential for anyone who wants to understand American music. My take is that Black R&B adapted to danceable songs=songs that all kids, white and black could adopt as a part of their lives = Rock and Roll.I'm now listening to the Time Life "Rock and Roll Era" 1956. It's "Fever" by Little Willie John. Others on here: "Why do Fools Fall in Love by Frankie Lymon, "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino, "Love is Strange" by Mickey and Sylvia, "Honky Tonk" by Bill Doggett, "Since I Met you Baby" by Ivory Joe Hunter, "I'll Remember (In the Still of the Night) by the Five Satins, Chuck Berry's "Roll over Beethoven", Little Richard's "Rip it Up" and "Long Tall Sally", The Platters' "My Prayer". How can anyone consider Rock without these classic songs? And that's just one album from 1956. There's another and also 1957 has two albums. There is an earlier album which is mainly R&B. It's very nice, but Rock in its earliest stages as in Muddy or Walter.
I acknowledge Les Paul's greatness and talent, but... please, he's not Rock.
i slightly disagree... i don't think paul had much if anything to do with being a father of rock'n'roll. that's not to say that a few of his songs may not have reflected what was to become rock'n'roll's energy...i simply doubt that kids looking to break new ground, or to make their own stand obliviously, found much to be inspired by in paul's sanitary if smart recordings. they were more likely looking to serious blues players and rockabilly prototypes like charlie feathers for inspiration.
without les paul's studio inventions it is likely that the new breed would have found themselves creatively stifled, and we might have found ourselves listening to big bands an crooners well into the sixies. however, that's another story.
Maybe a little T Bone Walker, Louis Jordan, Johnny Otis, Bullmoose Jackson, and others, if they admitted it !
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