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• Not Krips with the LSO on Everest - Sigmund 10:23:23 05/17/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  They play it as a proper allegretto.
  
  

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• Wartime Furtwaengler, boxset 1942-1944 DG <nt> - Rob 03:52:47 05/17/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

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• Cluytens, if you can find it. - Ears 01:04:25 05/16/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  Looks like Amazon has a used copy for sale.
  

  • Ludwig Van Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 2 & 7

  
  

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• Re: Beethoven 7th - Pat D 00:27:34 05/16/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  I rather like the recording with Ernest Ansermet and the SRO, which I have on a London STS LP. Very fine sound, too.

  I am not at home so I can't check out the tempos, but I rather like Leibowitz, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, which has been reissued by Chesky, coupled with a smashing 4th, too. Ansermet did a fine 4th, too.
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• Klemperer, Celibadache? - edta 15:21:49 05/15/02 (3)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  Just guessing from their reps and some other stuff I've heard. Have not heard their versions of this, though.

  A favorite of mine is the Reiner recently reissued in XRDCD. I suspect the tempo may be too brisk for you. Comparison would be to the Furtwangler on EMI. Have to round them up.

  Any source on the web give timings for the movements of recordings? That would be one way to check, altho not the quality, obviously.
  
  

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  • First Klemperer (mono) is great! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:31:20 05/16/02 (2)
    In Reply to: Klemperer, Celibadache? posted by edta on May 15, 2002 at 15:21:49:

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    • If it´s his '56 (or '57) rec in EMI, it is Stereo... - orejones 10:31:16 05/16/02 (1)
      In Reply to: First Klemperer (mono) is great! nt posted by clarkjohnsen on May 16, 2002 at 07:31:20:

      It was launched as Mono because in those days there were no stereo LPs, but later, when they went to their archives, to make a CD, they discovered it had been recorded stereo!

      Excellent version, and pretty good sound, too.

      Regards

      BF
      
      

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      • I meant the one with "VSOO" on Vox nt - clarkjohnsen 08:24:03 05/17/02 (0)
        In Reply to: If it´s his '56 (or '57) rec in EMI, it is Stereo... posted by orejones on May 16, 2002 at 10:31:16:

        
        
        

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• Please, no snickering!....Solti - DWPC 11:45:11 05/15/02 (3)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  For a slow-paced, funereal 2nd Movement, try Solti/London. For once, his laborious tempo meshes with the music. Solti's 2nd movement of the 7th is an anthem of resignation and despair.
  
  

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  • No snickering from me! It's really good. - clarkjohnsen 12:49:33 05/15/02 (2)
    In Reply to: Please, no snickering!....Solti posted by DWPC on May 15, 2002 at 11:45:11:

    Although I'm no fan of a lethargic second movement.

    You might also seek out the classic Cantelli.

    clark
    
    

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    • Re: No snickering from me! It's really good. - Ozymandias 13:03:15 05/15/02 (1)
      In Reply to: No snickering from me! It's really good. posted by clarkjohnsen on May 15, 2002 at 12:49:33:

      Are you guys talking about the earlier recording with the Vienna (on Decca classics) or the later one with the Chicago (also on Decca, i think)? Thanks.
      
      

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      • Chicago or London - DWPC 17:03:21 05/15/02 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: No snickering from me! It's really good. posted by ozymandias on May 15, 2002 at 13:03:15:

        I picked up on it when I saw "Immortal Beloved" (about Beethoven's mystery romance); had to see who did that 2nd movement for the soundtrack...it was Solti/London but Solti did the entire 7th with Chicago.
        
        

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• Maybe you are looking for something like Kempe with Munich in EMI - orejones 09:56:28 05/15/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  It was recorded in the 70s, and I have always enjoyed it enormously. It has been released in CD, in a budget series, some time ago.

  Regards

  BF
  
  

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• Modern sound - layman 08:48:25 05/15/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  For modern sound, I recommend Kurt Masur's Leipzig Gewandhaus recording for Philips (currently available as a Philips Duo set).
  
  

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• Re: Beethoven 7th - SE 07:09:00 05/15/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  

  I'll second the Furtwangler -- he is always special in Beethoven. If you're looking for something in more modern sound, I'll recommend a sleeper. One of Ashkenazy's early successes as a conductor was his recording of the Beethoven 5th and 7th with the Philharmonia Orchestra. Unlike Furtwangler, who generally reads Beethoven in a highly Romantic fashion, Ashkenazy's approach is firmly rooted in Classicism...his readings are very "Haydnesque". Powerful, but neatly controlled and leisurely. His reading of the Allegretto in the 7th Symphony is particularly pastoral (NOT somber or funereal). Beyond the Hadynesque squareness (which to me is both appealling and fascinating), you actually hear a very direct relationship between this movement and the preceding 6th Symphony, which is somewhat unusual. Here's a link to a used copy of the CD. This combination is also available as part of a slightly cheezier "Penguin Classics" series.
  

  • Ashkenazy's Beethoven 5 & 7

  
  

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• Re: Beethoven 7th - msk58 21:17:19 05/14/02 (0)
  In Reply to: Beethoven 7th posted by ozymandias on May 14, 2002 at 18:33:59:

  As John Ardoin states in 'The Furtwangler Record'...there's evidence that Beethoven was of two minds about the tempo of the movement, vacillating between the published allegretto and a slower andante...Furtwangler adopts the later...there are several versions available and rather than bore you with specifics, recommend you get the one on EMI from 1950 with the Vienna since it's readily available...and if you respond to that you can seek out the Berlin performance from 1943...
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