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In Reply to: RE: Hank Mobley...by request posted by suretyguy on July 22, 2017 at 15:59:32
True, Mobley wasn't an innovator. But he sounds damn good on every record he played on, and that's a lotta records playing with an amazing array of excellent musicians, and a wide variety of music. No matter whose recording he's on Mobley is never a weak link. I own almost every one of his own LP's and dig them all. He wrote some nice tunes too.
Really don't know why you think there's more emphasis on Mobley reissues than other Bluenote artists. They've reissued damn near the whole catalogue, actually including plenty that wasn't released when recorded.
I for one was very happy to get reissues of highly enjoyable Mobley recordings like Hi Voltage (w/McLean, Blue Mitchell, John Hicks, Cranshaw & Higgins) and some that AFAIK hadn't been released when Hank was alive like A Slice Of The Top (w/Lee Morgan, James Spaulding, Kiane Zawadi, Howard Johnson, McCoy, Reggie Workman, Billy Higgins). I mention those specific recordings because the music on 'em is certainly different, as are the groups playing on 'em. I don't find the sameness to Mobley's recordings that you mention. His playing doesn't dramatically change over the years, but it evolves within his style.
One of the things I go by in assessing jazz musicians is --- how recognizable is his/her sound? I recognize Mobley very quickly. His sound is unique. The combination of his tone/timbre/articulation and his rhythmic concept are instantly identifiable. Likewise some of the other non-innovators you mentioned, like Dexter, Tina Brooks, Charlie Rouse, Joe Henderson. To me, that's important and meaningful. Johnny Hodges wasn't an innovator either, but what about his SOUND?!
Its cool with me if you don't put Mobley in the "pantheon". Me either. But if you only listen to innovators you'll miss a helluva lot of really good music. Only a very small percentage of musicians in any idiom really deserve the lable "innovator".
Follow Ups:
"Hey, yer dissin' one of my faves." Not really. I find Mobley quite listenable and thoroughly enjoyable, as at least implied in my original post.
"...he sounds damn good on every record he played on." And to my ears, pretty much the same.
"I don't find the sameness to Mobley's recordings that you mention." It isn't the sameness of the recordings and/or the personnel, it's the sameness of his solos.
"But if you only listen to innovators you'll miss a helluva lot of really good music." Absolutely agree. That's why I have thousands of LPs and CDs by just about every jazz musician one can name and thoroughly enjoy them...including Hank Mobley.
"Only a very small percentage of musicians in any idiom really deserve the lable "innovator". Indisputable.
"Really don't know why you think there's more emphasis on Mobley reissues than other Bluenote artists." This is probably just because there seem to be so many compared to almost anyone else. I haven't actually counted them, so I could be wrong.
Miles at Carnegie Hall.
Wynton feeds him some nice substitute changes on a blues, and Hank eats 'em up.
Also, the Original Jazz Messengers, with Nica's Dream, Hank's Symphony, Ecaroh, End of a Love Affair, w/Donald Byrd.
Possibly my first Jazz Album, and still my Fav.
"Also, the Original Jazz Messengers, with Nica's Dream, Hank's Symphony, Ecaroh, End of a Love Affair, w/Donald Byrd.
Possibly my first Jazz Album, and still my Fav."
We're in complete agreement about this recording. It wasn't my first LP-that was Brown & Roach Incorporated-but it wasn't far behind.
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I am still going through Mobley's catalogu expanding to the album he played as a side man. ( seriously I would have never bought Elmo Hope album if it weren't for Hank ) :/ I still don't own any from Debut Records ( Max Roach Quartet ) or Savoy releases. Luckily plenty of Blue Note reissues. ( that's how I got to know his work ) A big band 'A slice of the top' is an interesting one. I remember liking Tynor's piano how pretty it was.Another thing I noticed about Mobley's playing ( you mention Gordon whome seems to be many's darlin' ), in spite his *easy going relaxed style, to me, it never sounds *loungy*. Maybe because his sense of timing is impeccable. His tunes are always easy to follow for me. Wonder if it's related to what you meany by *rhythmic concept*?
Can you elaborate?Currently listening:
Love this *I should care* with Walter Bishop on piano rather than his later Blue Note recording of the same tune with Wynton Kelly.
Mobley's ending riff on this tune is just gorgeous.
Edits: 07/22/17
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