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I asked about the label over on vinyl asylum and got no responses. So I am guessing very few vinylphiles have any of these. But maybe some folks here are at least familiar with the recordings and may have some opinions about them? The LPs are pricy but if they are something special....
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24bit/192kHz Digital Restoration from the Original Master Tape
100$ is a lot of $$ so I'd ask Elusive disc how they sound. ( they are exclusive distributor ) Assessment of performance would be subjective so I would try getting some more production background from them. Failing that maybe email Fremer?
Also noticed they are all live recording so I assume they won't be polished as studio.
Would be curious to know the name of remastering engineers and those who involved in production process.
OTOH, if you like the artist, just get it and if it stinks,( both in terms of performance or sound ) just return it.
As a rule, I do not care much for Japanese pressed Western music lp, but I am curious where they are getting the master tapes from.
Who do you think is the best person to ask at Elusive Disc? I sent an email to Fremer. I would suspect that given the limited edition and the price the folks at Elusive Disc may not have ever popped one open to give them a listen. And yes the assessment of the performances are subjective but I would be interested to hear any such opinions from any mebers here who have heard any of the recordings. Of course such opinions are just that, opinions.
My experience with Japanese pressed LPs of western music is that there is no reasonable rule of thumb. IME they range from state of the art to dismal. I can't make any assumptions one way or the other based on country of origin here.
Thanks for the reply though. It got me to email Fremer.
it might be good idea to contact the Label directly? Get that info from Elusive disc.
In the past, I have had some luck with getting a release production info from a reissue company.
Well, my rule of thumb is based on my experience. I had a much better luck with Japanese remastered CDs ( XRCD for example ) but so far no home run on LPs when it comes to repressing of Western music. Production value is always high but they seem to re-EQ the balance to their taste.
Do you have any King Super Analogue records from the great Decca catalog?
You didn't like the sound? I have found the King Super Analog LPs to be the very best versions of the Decca recordings. That was until ORG did their 45 rpm London series. But there are only 12 of those.
I picked it up a several years ago to check it out with the original issue. Haven't been in a mood for Bruckner!Do you know the production background? I see some of them are made in US. and King International is a distributor. Could you share a production info on these?
I remember ORG reissues a few years back and said to be excellent but I can't deal with the 45s for incovenience!~ ( the only exception is some of Music Matter's Blue Note 45s which are worth the trouble )
Edits: 07/20/17
The ones I have are all Japanese. King cut the laquers from the original master tapes through an all vacuum tube system with no EQ compression, limiting or summing bass to mono. Straight feed from the tape output to the cutting head. Only thing adding any color would be the tubes themselves. Every title I have that I compared to either a Decca cut or a Speakers Corner cut (many of which were cut by Decca) was substantially better. Only the ORG beat the King.
Do you think their Sheherazade is better than Speakers Corner reissue?
The one I have is pressed in the US.
I would think that it's almost impossible to make a comparison between ORG and Japanese King cuz, the latter is 33rpm. There are some exceptions, but I'd think that 45 version would have less distortions.
Interesting that their process sounds a lot like Chesky. I doubt that Decca let go of an original master tape to Japan. ( I'd reckon it' would have been a copy )
Incidentally, I have not had much good luck with Speaker's Corner classical reissues. I usually don't like their balance. ( lacking naturalness albeit with super pristine inky background )
OTOH, their jazz and pop music reissues have been terrific surpassing my original albums.
King Super Analog discs I recomend. Keep in mind these are long out of print and often go for big bucks now. I bought most of mine new from Acoustic Sounds and Elusive Discs over the years when they were in print.
Willi Boskovsky - Mozart - Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, K.525 & A Musical Joke, K.522
Label: London Records - KIJC 9009
Stravinsky, Ernest Ansermet Conducting L'Orchestre De La Suisse Romande - The Soldier's Tale & Symphony In Three Movements.
Label: King Records - KIJC 9105, London Records - KIJC 9105
Istvan Kertesz / London Symphony Orchestra - Kertesz Conducts Kodály
Label: King Records - KIJC 9107, London Records - KIJC 9107
Dvořák / Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra / István Kertész - Symphony No.5 In E Minor, Op. 95, "From The New World"
Label: The Super Analogue Disc - KIJC 9114
Bruch - Kyung-Wha Chung, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Rudolf Kempe - Violin Concerto No.1, Op. 26 / Scottish Fantasy, Op.46
Label: King Records - KIJC 9133, London Records - KIJC 9133
Berlioz, Monteux, Vienna Philharmonic - Symphonie Fantastique
Label: The Super Analogue Disc - KIJC 9142
***Holst, Los Angeles Philharmonic, Zubin Mehta - The Planets, Suite, Op.32
Label: London Records - KIJC 9145, King Records - KIJC 9145
Ravel, Cleveland Orchestra, Lorin Maazel - Daphnis Et Chloé (Complete Ballet)
Label: The Super Analogue Disc - KIJC 9187
Have to give the Planets the triple asterix because the ORG of that title is simply better in every way. But the King Kills my Decca cut London LP.
Speakers Corner doesn't work for you? Hmmmm. I have been very happy with their LPs. Just about all of their Deccas are actually cut by Tony Hawkins at the Decca facility. They pretty much have the London?Decca signature sound but are much quieter. I haven't had time to do any shoot outs with their Mercuries against originals or reissues from ORG or Classics.
I've been on the road so much with work that I am way behind on listening to my new records.
Yes Japanese pressed Kings are expensive. That's why I thought if you had an experience with both the Speakers corner ( 35$ ) & King ( 90$ + ) of Sheherazade.
Luckily, many of their Decca titles are not my fave performances but a few I consider ponying up for if they sound better than cheaper alternatives. ( Kyung Wha Chung and Crespin's Sheherazade )
re: Speakers Corner:
I need to go back my inventory, but the one I can definitely remember is the Ansermet/de la Suissse Romanade Firebird.
I think that most people would opt for Speakers Corner reissue: Excellent frequency extensions with natural note decays. A hefty low end bloom, slam and impact. More modern EQ applied it seems. Massed strings and fiddles are clean and sweet except for a few spots. Greater instrument separations. A low tape hiss noise albeit stark sounding at times and def. the sound of brass is affected in the process. Closed mic'd with lots of details in midrange, too.
What's not to like really. Except that when I put on my mint blue back London reissue, self noise is higher but it has a better in-room presence and natural instruments colour. Brass instruments sound more natural to my ears. Odd that this version sounds less pondering and faster especially at the finale. It has a magnetic power to make me listen unlike the Speakers Corner reissue which is somewhat hifi-ish to these set of ears.
Now I haven't check the dead wax info on my London so it's possible that Tony Hawkins did not work on my copy. ( hence very different balance )
Familiar with the Kyung Wha Chung recording. If you like these concertos they are excellent recordings in very good sound
Alan
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