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In Reply to: RE: Why has't MD been cannonized yet? posted by Mike K on June 20, 2017 at 08:51:08
"I am willing to give MD some props as an innovator. But that's it. His playing was above average at best. Many of his contemporaries would have blown him off the stage"
Exactly. If I want trumpet playing I'll listen to Freddy Hubbard or many others. I rarely listen to Miles' records these days. I used to listen a lot, but it was for his sidemen. I always kind of "blanked out" in his solos and my mind wandered. His flurries of notes did absolutely nothing for me - for me it was a huge cul-de-sac. Boring - very boring.
But he did innovate and make great records. Take away his sidemen and I don't think that would have happened. Guys like Shorter, Zawinul, Bill Evans, Coltrane, Hancock, Jarrett were the really great ones - they could play like hell and they all did much more outside of Miles' bands than they ever did inside.
He is among the great trumpet players (no need to split hairs over who is the greatest) but his vision took Jazz to new places and brought about changes that helped the genre evolve into what is now considered mainstream. Read up on his many ground breaking accomplishments and you just might "get" what it's all about!
"Read up on his many ground breaking accomplishments and you just might "get" what it's all about!..."
I don't need to read anything - I've been playing jazz professionally for 45 years! I have most of Miles' LPs. I still listen to the odd track - from Seven Steps to Heaven mostly. But I don't agree with the received opinion, and I think Kind of Blue is far from his best work. Very over-hyped. His band with Herbie, Tony Williams, Ron Carter and George Coleman was the best stuff for me. That was special, but mainly for the rhythm section.
MD gave us a tone or certain "sound" in his playing and presentation.
MD gave us music lovers "Kind of Blue". This is the most important Jazz album. MD was a superstar going into the recording sessions for KOB.
Afterwards, he became a mega-star. He hired nothing but the best for that album, including an unknown Bill Evans. For the uninitiated, start here and work your way back to 1954. Everything about MD will be revealed.
He did hire some of the greats. And that indicates a high degree of
smarts on his part. When your band makes you and your music sound
better, you doing something right.
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