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In Reply to: RE: Just listened to it again. OK. It's not that bad. At all. posted by jdaniel@jps.net on May 21, 2017 at 11:26:23
Planning to download the Stereo DXD (PCM after all) as my multibit DAC will handle the 352.8k PCM but I may have to convert it to whatever CODEC that iTunes/Bit Perfect plug-in will play and my freeware converter won't go past 24/192 at the moment.
But as soon as my 'Mac Mini Music Player' guy gets back from vacation, I'll download it.
In the mean time, I found the above on TIDAL mislabeled under 'various artists' rather than Bu
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But nativeDSD site has the real deal (I think), the DXD file which MAY be the file that comes out of the original mastering as 32/352.8k PCM.
"What we have done now is also make a direct conversion to DSD128 and DSD256 from that original DXD edited master, without going through any interim processing steps."
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Sure sounds like it to me. So the DXD (multichannel) files were what I downloaded. The whole process was very fast, and there were no problems at all with the 24/352.8 playback.
BTW, I DID finally download my first DSD (DSF) file earlier tonight, also from Jared's nativedsd.com site - It was the Reference Recordings (Soundmirror) "Elektra for Orchestra" with Honeck and the Pittsburgh SO. It's DSD 256, so we'll see. I won't be able to listen to it until tomorrow. Since I downloaded only half the album (I don't care for Rosenkavalier), it seemed to take quite a long time to provision and assemble the tracks on the site (like an hour or so) before the download even started, but files seemed to arrive on my local disc safely. More to report tomorrow.
Was it a FLAC or WAV file?
Did you have to convert it?
Do you use iTunes with a plug-in for Hi Rez?
Since I'm using the exaSound ASIO driver right now, I can only use HQ Player. With ASIO, HQ Player seems a bit happier playing FLAC's so far. (I'm talking about multi-channel here - but OTOH this may be just a mistaken first impression on my part.) More of the history of my experiences with my new exaSound e38 is posted over on Digital Drive here on AA (link below). The exaSound SW provides for easy switching between core audio and ASIO, but, for some reason, it's not so easy for me. . . yet. I plan to talk with George at exaSound support later this week - he says switching between ASIO and Core Audio SHOULD be easy.
BTW, I think iTunes supports AIFF files up to 192K just by itself IIRC - no plug-in needed. You just set your parameters on Audio MIDI Setup in the Applications -> Utilities folder. However, iTunes doesn't support multi-channel, so that's why I'm also using Audirvana+ (which has a nice interface with iTunes) and HQ Player. But Audirvana+ doesn't support ASIO (which has certain advantages compared to Apple's Core Audio), so, for right now, if I want to use ASIO, I have to use HQ Player. To add further complication, the new version of Audirvana+ supports MQA. (I can just see some listeners here shaking their heads - LOL!) The 2L site has some MQA downloads available which I might want to try.
That said, I do not know what format I need to convert the FLAC to, as AIFF only goes up to 192k.
I REALLY want to hear what my DAC sounds like at 32/352.8 (which, of course, the PMC1704U-K can't do). But it should at least play music.
Need to chat with the guy who set up the Mac Mini for audio but he's not back from vacation. The freeware converter he had me download only converts FLAC to AIFF at up to 192k but not higher nor any other CODEC higher than 192K.
Makes not sense to buy a 32/352.8k download and convert it to 24/192 in order to play it.
That's the recording that gave me tinnitus! (Just kidding, The squeal is going away. Or I'm just getting used to it.)
The RR was originally recorded in DSD64 though, IIRC. In that case, I don't get the point of upsampling. For "pure" quad, I'd recommend some of the old Deccas at HDTT. Unedited.
Channel has a new Dvorak America Quartet disc that actually was encoded in 256. I may try that one, though my machine maxes out at 128.
However, in the case of this particular recording, the note on the RR booklet states, "This recording was made and post produced in DSD256 on a Pyramix workstation. . . " So for this particular recording, playback in DSD256 perhaps isn't overkill. (I say "perhaps", because at this level of digital refinement, the differences between DXD, DSD256 and DSD 128 may not be easily apparent unless the comparisons are sighted - LOL!)
In any case, even if the master was DSD64, I still would have downloaded the DSD256 file, because I'm putting my new DAC through its paces during its 30-day trial period, and I want to make sure that it stands up to the processing demands of 256.
I must say, that I found this recording pretty overwhelming in terms of its sustained ability to provide an absolutely thrilling, spine-tingling listening experience. I was shaking at the end and for several minutes afterwards too. As you know, the microphone layout was 5 DPA 4006 microphones, with spot microphones as needed. The spots are VERY well integrated into the ultra realistic (IMHO) sonic framework, and I'd say that this is the best Soundmirror engineering effort I've ever heard! I'm eager now to do some more comparisons, even though I have a couple of nagging annoyances with the DAC (one of which is a hum problem - not really too bad, but still too audible for my taste - which I'm pretty sure can be solved).
In any case, listening to this RR recording was a pretty dynamite experience for me!
I promised myself "no more highlights."
(But then the famous RCA British Dog Faust and Carmen Suite is available now in DSD at Acoustic Sounds.) IMHO that one surpasses just about every other Shaded Dog I've heard. I sold a copy for over $500, in fact. My brother found it in a Central Valley Thrift.
BTW did you ever pick up the Ansermet Petrushka from HDTT? Treat yourself. The Campoli Tchaikovsky VC is another stunner.
Yeah - I saw that RCA Faust and Carmen Suites album at Acoustic Sounds. But I'm trying to stick to multi-channel for the time being because I want to test out how much of a stress HQ Player's multi-channel upsampling options put on the Intel processor in my Mac Mini. In a way though, I don't really see why I'm bothering - the guy at exaSound recommended NOT using upsampling in the playback (just play the file at its actual resolution), and I'm not really sure upsampling makes any audible difference. But, just for grins, I do want to run experiments for the next couple of weeks.
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