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In Reply to: RE: Andris Nelsons to add Leipzig Gewandhaus to the BSO posted by John Marks on April 26, 2017 at 13:27:46
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I guess it just HAD to happen (on the orchestra's own label no less):
the big names have been recorded to death, upon death. New composers, please.
And even more is not enough!
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And I'm thinking that Blomstedt's wonderful complete Bruckner cycle with the LGO on SACD (on the Querstand label) wasn't completed that long ago. Whatever. . . - my interest will depend on how well engineered the forthcoming Nelsons cycle is - and that includes availability in multi-channel (and preferably studio, rather than live - although, budgets being what they are, I'll understand if they have to go the live route, a la the Blomstedt cycle).
Wouldn't it be great if, instead of another Bruckner cycle, DG started up their Maximilian Steinberg Symphony cycle again (begun with Jarvi and the Gothenburg Symphony) with Nelsons and the LGO? ;-)
I'm with you on this. I can't get excited about yet another Bruckner cycle (or Mahler or Beethoven or Brahms)
I like Bruckner, but personally I'd rather see more recordings of less familiar composers. I too wonder what happened to the Steinberg symphonies. Jarvi is now 79. I don't know about his current health, but most conductors keep at it until they fall over dead. I've been hoping that, if nothing else, CPO or Naxos might decide to record them all (or the remaining symphonies) -- he wrote 5 symphonies and an assortment of other orchestral works.
I'm curious about the remaining symphonies. Steinberg was the son-in-law of Rimsky-Korsakov, and he was Shotakovich's teacher. I'm no great fan of Shostakovich, but I am interested to hear how Steinberg's music evolved over time.
All that said, Steinberg's music doesn't really have much in the way of memorable moments or a unique voice. Recordings of any lesser known composer would be more interesting than an umpteenth recording of the same old same old. I'd like to hear the remaining Steinberg orchestral works, but he would not be at the top of my list.
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
The Fourth is way different from Steinberg's first two symphonies - it's lighter fare and kind of like a combo of Ippolitov-Ivanov, Gliere, and Khatchaturian! Of course, Steinberg's masterpiece is his profound (if I may use that word) settings of the Passion Week chants for unaccompanied chorus, of which, amazingly, we now have had two wonderfully performed recordings in the last couple of years.
I would prefer to describe the style of Steinberg's first two symphonies as elusive, rather than lacking a unique voice. The Second Symphony especially has some gripping moments (at least for me).
Here's the link.
Jim
http://jimtranr.com
Yes, I've got that one. I also have the Metamorphoses orchestral piece. I'm not really into most choral stuff, so I haven't bothered with the Passion Week recordings.
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
It will be interesting to hear his Gewandhaus cycle. For me, Blomstedt's is a mixed bag. A few are excellent, but most are no more than middle-of-the-road. The SQ is quite good, though.
Chicago, Berlin Philharmonic, Staatskapelle Berlin. The third one is availble on CD and 4-9 on Blu-ray.
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They had better...!
I wonder how many Classical recordings actually make money,
yet there a large number off new releases every month.
Archiv is a good place to see how many, and they point out SACDs.
I don't see how the Classical Music Business is anything but healthy,
if the shear volume of new recordings is any indicator.
There must be some CDs that just never sell tho, there are really almost too many choices these days.
by buying lots of Shostakovich downloads lately. :-)
Jim
http://jimtranr.com
I suspect its the same as jazz recordings. They're basically an ad to attract an audience at concerts/gigs. I really can't understand how labels can keep producing classical recordings. Sales are anemic. When's the last time there was a *hit* classical recording?
I think I read some story about Hilary Hahn having the number one selling classical album on the Billboard charts one month and the actual sales were only about 500 copies during that time period! And yet, as you say, that sure doesn't seem to be reducing the number of new classical titles released each month.
Multi Channel? Yes! Master Audio 5.1
That's a MUST OWN for Chris.
Video? Yes!
Video of Barenboim conducting is just icing on the cake!
Pentatone. With that most famous of all Bruckner Orchestras, the Suisse Romande. : )
Anyone heard it?
Better Performance!
Did you mean JUROWSKI? Janowski has at least one Bruckner performance on Pentatone with Orchestre de la Suisse Romande--the 7th, which isn't bad. I don't think Jurowski has recorded anything on Pentatone.
I can vouch for them all (yes, even the Shostakovitch!).
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Oops I forgot about those Jurowski recordings on Pentatone. But I think the original message was about Jurowski Bruckner recordings, and there aren't any of those on Pentatone.
BTW, I saw a Jurowski-conducted Cleveland Orchestra concert a couple of years ago. I remember that I enjoyed the performances, but I can't remember what they played :)
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I have only the Ninth Symphony and the F-minor Mass from that Pentatone cycle - both good, especially the Mass. The OSR is of course completely unrecognizable as the orchestra Ansermet conducted and actually does muster a fairly respectable Germanic sound in these works! ;-)
on Pentatone. Didn't seem particularly "on fire." Also includes Nights in the Gardens and Dances from Three Cornered Hat. Hmmm. I may stick to Ansermet's old classic.
Regarding Janowski's Bruckner 4th, I think I'll go for it. Honeck's 4th intrigues, but I may be the only person in the world who doesn't care for RR's "Fresh" relentlessly up-front recorded sound.
OTOH, most of the other Reference Recordings I've heard (i.e., the studio ones, not the live ones - e.g., the Minnesota Orchestra, Dallas Winds, etc.) definitely have a more distant perspective to my ears.
For sale in the SFO gift shop (for sale, not on sale). :-)
N
they use a special glue to attache to zeroes and ones to silver disks.
It's new technology. I don't quite understand how it works.
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