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Suddenly - bam - you can't post no mo'.
To the relief of all of my followers and disciples, it appears that I've been reinstated. Whew.
Everyone may relax.
BTW - anyone agree that Penderecki's a major major composer of the post WWII generation?
Anyway, whilst I was barred from entry; while I was persona non grata; whilst I was cast out of Eden, I muddled around and found another site. Jeez. I really have to get around to posting my mini-series about classical music people [hopefully before I'm bammed again]. What a sorry, sorry bunch.
What I've found over there is a combination really untutored, uninformed classical folks, some apparently decently informed folks, and at least one composer. There might be more highly musically educated people - it remains to be seen.
But, in the meantime, there're lots of erroneous ideas about music being posted by people who are rock-solid sure they're absolutely God-like correct, even tho they haven't a clue as to what they're talking about.
I posted a sarcastic response, which was deleted immediately.
This site's a bit like going back to Audioasylum back in 1999. That's what I used to battle over here, back in the day [when the earth was young ---].
Specifically, people who've formed ideas about technical music concepts which are slightly wrong, or totally wrong, but who think they're completely correct. Mostly, these people have no formal music theory training, so they've wrestled with trying to understand various points of music theory and music history. Lacking an ability to ever understand either, and without any teachers in either, they've cobbled together ideas based mostly on liner notes reading, some magazine reading, maybe the odd program note from the odd concert they've attended --- pow --- out comes a wrong-way, totally wrong bundle of ideas about music.
Here's a tiny sample of the level of musical knowledge that I'm talking about. I was going to paste in a lot more, but I don't want to be mean to people who might turn out to be really decent, nice folks.
But, note how some of these guys just don't get it - and you get a feeling that they just can't grasp this techinico musico stuff [and never will]:
"I could do without Harmony if forced..."
"Western music is all about harmony, which compensates for the lack of rhythmic and melodic subtlety (you can find that more in Eastern music).
Not sure why you grouped harmony and melody together."
Severius! Supremus Invictus
No Mental Health Services in Chicago?
Or he really is nuts.
In answer to your question, my answer is similar to the others you've received: it's an extremely subjective process - one of my criteria is repeated name calling. I know that when people get into it and the passions flare, it's hard to resist the name calling sometimes, but we all have to do our best. Of course, I've never outright banned anyone (and I hope I won't have to), and I've announced "vacations" in only a couple of instances.
You may be referring to the intervals and tonal relationships of the western diatonic scale. But there's also harmony as in all of us gettin' along. All men are brothers, as Goethe would say.
Perhaps those two sets of principles are related? I look forward to your harmonious posts.
Pour a glass of wine, kick off your shoes and get comfortable then. : )
Slippin' and Slidin'.
Maybe you get the same broadcast on your radio station. I know some folks around here could use some of that love potion. ;-)
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
. . . the steam coming out of the ears of some folks here who see misogyny under every rock or around every street corner. Or who claim that they'll be ignoring future "misogynist" posts and who yet never seem to be able to restrain themselves from commenting on them.
Of who can be the Stockhausen or Xenakis of this board? I thought you were in the harmony camp! Anyone who posts +1 nt to one of my typically thoughtful yet entertaining comments, a Richard Wagner comment no less (exceedingly rare for me) is obviously a person of refined taste discernment.
And as I mentioned to you long ago, moderator-master Chris, if you keep "pushing peoples' buttons", as you put it, those people are going to retaliate from time to time. I say you should just absorb that retaliation silently and move on, or at least not respond in kind.
BTW, thanks for your academician post. The writers you cite are not people I have any interest in reading up on. If they are dogmatic bozos, so be it. I had an early music specialist professor like that. I guess some academicians and HIP musicians feel they need to take a very rigid hard line to justify their academic existence, but not the best of them, imho.
hmmmm ---- very Severius! -ish
Severius! Supremus Invictus
Yes, a little "L'elisir d'amore", ahem, goes a long way as they say. ; )
Perhaps it's the harmony of all parts working together so that no one part draws unjust attention to itself. IOW, Beauty.
I think Aristotle said something about that, or maybe it was Groucho.
I quit the study of Philosophy when it occurred to me that Beauty was BOTH subjective and objective; I Kant reconcile all the fuss over whether it's one or the other.
I listen therefore I am.
"Beauty was BOTH subjective and objective"
Amazing. So true.
Now that you've said it, is seems so obvious - one of those "why didn't I think of it before" moments - and yet --- it contemplating beauty all of my life [chief thru music, but in other aspects of existence also], I've never hit on that solution.
Severius! Supremus Invictus
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