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In Reply to: RE: Applause posted by Newey on March 16, 2017 at 20:08:15
I've been to concerts where you can see the buses from the retirement homes all neatly parked in the lot. And unfortunately, dementia is already setting in with some of the attendees from these locations.
OTOH, as I've posted before, applause in the middle of a movement is HIP! There's a contemporaneous account of a performance of Haydn's Creation, and at the point where the sun comes out, the audience broke out into applause even as the music continued. Apparently, Haydn wasn't too worried about it, beause he is said at that moment to have pointed up to heaven (whence came his inspiration!).
I interviewed Aldo Ciccolini one time, and he was more lined up with your way of thinking. He felt that applause after a performance always broke the musical spell he'd been working so hard to create or evoke. He claimed he would be happier if there was complete silence after his performances. He also claimed that serving music was like being a monk in a monastery, and if one were totally dedicated to serving music, one should not get married!
"the buses from the retirement homes all neatly parked in the lot".
Yes. Mindless clapping isn't limited to youth [although they have the most insoucient attitude towards it].That's what I meant by middle-aged cowntry heros - middle aged and older folk who's daily, normal music tastes are mostly pop-rock, cowntry, etc.
But, nevermind that. You're info nugget about Ciccolini is valuable. Interestingly, Dmitri Mitropoulos believed the same thing - and lived that way. Apparently, he hed a simple, dirt poor, monastic lifestyle. No big house. Just a simple hotel room. All so that he could devote himself entirely to music.
Such devotion is so inspiring and thought provoking - and is the sharpest contrast to the lifestyle of pretty much every single pop rocker. Cf the sprawling estate of late, sainted genius of rock - Prince Rogers Nelson.
Severius! Supremus Invictus
Yes, quite a contrast with Karajan, much less the "pop rockers" to whom you refer. And when Mitropoulos was unceremoniously shoved aside at the NY Philharmonic to make way for the younger and more glamorous Leonard Bernstein, suddenly a superstar thanks to his smash hit Broadway musical West Side Story, he was graceful and dignified about it.
There are people who are geriatrics, who've been listening to classical music their entire lives, sometimes play some instrument and read music, and have many interesting stories about great musicians of the past.
They also know what they like and what they don't like. I've had some interesting encounters with such persons at concert halls.
Most recently, there was a guy who sat in front of me at a CSO concert. On the bill was the Beethoven Piano Con #3 [first part of the program]. followed by Mahler's Blumnine movement. After intenmission, the big piece was the Schoenberg orchestration of the Brahms Pian Quartet. While I was thrilled to hear the Beethoven, hearing the latter 2 pieces - in concert - was the big treat for me. Especially the Schoenberg - since the orchestration was the point there - and recordings just arent' an in-the-flesh performance.
The guy in front of me listened with rapt interest during the Beethoven, and then bolted right at intermission. And, these were no cheap seats.
Another older lady told me that Ravel was way too noisy. She avoided him.
Still another older lady tolerated the Bruckner 9th - which means she sat thru it without leaving. Afterwards, all she said was "So much brass! I've never seen so much brass in my life!". She didn't like the music.
Severius! Supremus Invictus
As I mentioned last year: While attending a Dutoit/Suisse Romande concert at UC Davis, (Rachmaninov, Stravinsky and Ravel), I was shocked to see a gaggle of extremely old professors leave after the Rachmaninov.
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