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In Reply to: RE: I have an idea - Let's define the Four (War)Horse symphonies of the Apocalypse posted by gd on March 06, 2017 at 13:58:21
Because some of the ones listed by others, I almost never see on concert programs. And I don't listen to radio.
That said, my list of 4 is:
1. Anything by Shostakovich
2. Anything by Stravinsky
3. Anything by Mahler
4. Anything by Mozart
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
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That's why I cited the League of American Orchestras annual ranking. You and Chris can't argue with actual data. OK, actually, you both can and do argue with actual data ;-)
I mean, are Mozart's six delightful piano and violin sonatas, K. 10-15, written when he was a child, overplayed "warhorses"?
How about Stravinsky's brilliant Octet for winds?
Just because something is played often does not mean it is overplayed. There is music I never tire of. Dvorak 9 falls into that category for me.
Alternatively, just because something is not in the top 10 of performance frequency does not mean it isn't overplayed. Some music falls into that "never want to hear it ever again" category because we've heard it like 10 million times already and even once more is too many.
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
I very much doubt you've heard the Mozart K. 10-15 sonatas or the Stravinsky Octet 10 million times. And there are even less well-known pieces by both Mozart and Stravinsky, so everything by those composers isn't a "warhorse".
Gosh, even everything by Gliere isn't a warhorse.
By the way, a "warhorse" is something that is so often performed it has become widely familiar. Subjective taste doesn't enter into it.
That is - a universally overplayed composer - there is only one choice:
Bach.
Original, transcribed, extra crispy, everyone plays, records and muzaks Bach.
Gregg
It means a piece that's played so much everyone knows it.
I just wanted to say big tent, anyway we were off the topic of warhorse and on to the warelephant in the room.
If I had been given two more choices, they would have been:
5. Anything by Haydn
6. Anything by Adams
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
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