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In Reply to: RE: Who needs home keys? And why I hate Mozart...... posted by rbolaw on January 03, 2017 at 12:38:45
Really, I think he was far outdone in this respect by Schubert, not to mention by composers in the later nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, as disparate as Dvorak (beginning of the slow movement of the New World Symphony) and Rachmaninoff (beginning of the slow movement of the Second Piano Concerto). Those are examples of extraordinary modulations IMHO. Mozart, not so much.
I of course agree with you about the slow intro to the "Dissonant" String Quartet, less so about the late piano concertos. In fact, the finale of the D-minor Piano Concerto in particular always grates on me, as Mozart loses his nerve and is unable to resist bringing in that trite little D-major theme at the end. Ugh! If he's going to write a concerto in a minor key, it's better for him to do what he does in the C-minor Concerto and keep his nerve up (in the minor key) through to the end.
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Only January 3, and you've already lost the straight path and wandered into a dark wood.
Yeah, Mahler was a lot more inventive with key changes.
What's your point?
I prefer Haydn but maybe that's just me.
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"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
Name every modulation, and the new key, in the first movement of K. 595, which starts and ends in B-flat major.
. . . it's not the number of modulations, it's the quality. After all, there are modulations, and there are MODULATIONS! ;-)
To me, Mozart did for modulation what Bach did for counterpoint, Chopin (and later Debussy) for harmony, Beethoven for overall architecture and Stravinsky for polyphony. They all permanently expanded the Western musical tradition.
I have to say that's a singular view of music history you have there! ;-)
And my view of Mozart is not only not singular, but entirely conventional and long-accepted. This, from a brief discussion in the completely non-technical Lives of the Great Composers:
{W]hat always sets Mozart's music apart is its proportion and rightness -- its taste, if you will. That, and an inexhaustible melody joined to an extremely daring harmonic sense. A fully developed harmonic sense, a feeling for modulation, is the infallible mark of the important composer.
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Some of his late piano works, such as the B minor Adagio, have a harmonic texture that actually anticipates Chopin, so varied is the key structure.
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