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In Reply to: RE: Who needs home keys? And why I hate Mozart...... posted by andy evans on January 03, 2017 at 06:22:54
I have never been a Mozart fan -- the only exception being The Magic Flute, which I enjoy for its fantasy story. His music is for me, formulaic, simplistic, tedious, and just plain boring. I recognize that most of the listening world loves Mozart. His music just ain't for me.
Are you averse to the word "atonal" -- defined as "marked by avoidance of traditional musical tonality; especially: organized without reference to key or tonal center" You seem to avoid the term.
Although I can and do enjoy atonal works, I also find that some composers are much more to my liking than others. Because atonality can also be deadly boring for me if it also lacks a sense of lyricism or development or seems to aimlessly go nowhere.
Other than Wagner and Debussy, what composers do you really like that are less tethered to a home key?
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
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I'd make an exception of some late Mozart - Jupiter symphony, Gm String Quintet K516 - but it's a toss up between early Mozart and Hello Dolly...What do I listen to and like? Richard Strauss opera and songs. The key changes right at the start of 4 Last Songs are magical for instance, and Frau Ohne Schatten gets an occasional listen. Janacek operas in general - Katya Kabanova in particular has fascinating key changes, construction, and interaction between orchestra and voices. Wagner of course, and Debussy. Berg, like 3 orchestral pieces and 7 Early Songs. Bartok, 6 Quartets etc. Messiaen organ works like La Nativite du Seigneur. That kind of thing.
I dabble in songwriting as a hobby, and I really wonder how you could make popular music less rooted in tonality and still have some kind of mass appeal. If you can think of any examples I'd be grateful to know about it.
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...though not really "popular". Try the album "Pony Express Record" by the band Shudder to Think. Quite loosely tonal post-punk rock music. One of my favorite rock albums of the 90's. The track Chaka has some nice changes that might tickle your modulation bone.
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Mass appeal? Zappa was hugely popular and his music still sells. He was definitely out there with a lot of his music.
Probably not many achieve mass appeal. But Tin Hat has recorded 6 albums of very eclectic music spanning a lot of styles and they tour quit a lot, so they do have a bit of a following. Try this one:
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
...with liberal doses of Klezmer.
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Try this one, which does drift away from the home key in places and threads of atonality creep in. Haunting in a spooky French kind of way. They did a movie soundtrack too, but I forget the title. Most of their music is not weird, it's just uncommon instrumentation and arrangements.
"Life without music is a mistake" (Nietzsche)
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