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In Reply to: D.HARVEY'S LAST GROUP -- 6 TUNES ARE ON posted by opinionated on March 21, 2007 at 05:15:55:
No idea who anybody is except the last one, and Duane knows why I know that.Thought for a minute the piano on #3 might be Hank Jones, but too many frills for him.
That version of Duke's East St. Louis Toodle-o is very hip. Nice alto & tpt. solos. I dug the whole conception, but have no idea who they are. Don't really think its either, but as a wild guess..... James Zollar or Steven Bernstein on tpt.?
That big band was smokin' too. Looking forward to seeing the answers. Might have to get the big band thing and group who did the Duke tune. Thanx, Duane. Great stuff.
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Gotta be Payton & Osby on the Duke tune. Believe it or not I did think of both, but didn't guess them 'cause I never heard of them recording together. The harmonic ins/outs of the alto solo reminded me of Osby, so I checked and found it. Damn nice version, and just the idea of doing a small group version was hip.I highly recommend this cd: The Best of Early Ellington (Decca Jazz)
These are recordings from the late '20's & early '30's, and it has the original version of that tune. Truly amazing how great Duke's charts were at this early stage, and the players are absolutely fantastic. Sound is plenty good enough to enjoy the hell outta this music.
Sometimes cheaters do win, I guess ;-). Nicholas Payton and Greg Osby are the ones, and yes, it's Osby's record. That whole album is very good.I have some of the Ellington stuff from the 20s and 30s, though hardly the whole lot of it. The Fletcher Henderson stuff from the same period is also very hip.
dh
Intersting - I was listening to an LP last night with Hank on piano and the same thought occurred to me
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
Is the piano player animal, vegetable, mineral or chick?
Chick is the answer, which of course narrows the field dramatically.
dh
Pretty clever, huh? All I got left is wile and guile!
old enough - Corea that is
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
...silly!
dh
But DAMN-Ooooops! Just hit me - a female type Chick. Marion? or more likely - MaryLou???
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
Mary Lou....got more imagination than Marion at least that's who I thought it was which is the reason for my clever inquiry.
Marion is harmonically more daring than this. This record to me is more of a typical Tatum/Waller derived thing like was so common at the time. We're running out of usual suspects quickly.....
dh
Got me beat. The only others I can think of are Hazel Scott, Beryl Booker and Dorothy Donegan maybe in chronological order. I really thought it might be a very early Mary Lou Williams. It is an early somebody. Believe it or not I got records by all of them but I ain't gonna pull them out now to hear what they sounded like. It did sound like a chick piano player to me that's why I asked that question. Beryl Booker can be pretty primitive and Hazel Scott had a classical background which made her less swingy sometimes. Old Dorothy could play pretty hard sometimes.
I'm not familiar with Beryl Booker at all. I knew this would be a hard one.
dh
It's a fairly early Dorothy, isn't it? I got a 10"lp and a 12" but I didn't want to listen to them (if I could get at them). Beryl Booker was a little primitive, all self-taught and couldn't read music at all. I have a Hazel Scott lp also but she was kind of pianistic because of her background. She looked great and can sing also. Truthfully, I never did dig the chick piano players because most of them sounded ladyish. Barabara Carroll was another one. They all used to play at the Embers in NYC. Marion M. and the whole crowd. That's where I first heard Marion. It was interesting to hear that piano thing but I did get a feeling it was a female..Now you can't tell the difference by gender in fact I think the women might have an edge over the last few years.
I hope you know that I wasn't gender bashing but there weren't many women that were playing jazz in my "heyday".
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"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
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