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My wife really enjoys early jazz (I like it, she LOVES it), but neither of us knows much about it (e.g. various artists, recordings, etc. etc.). We've mostly heard the music on weekly 'early jazz' shows on some of the local jazz stations (KSDS in San Diego and KJZZ in Long Beach), and on the Riverwalk show that plays on some NPR stations. I'm not up on jazz history (would like to know more), but I believe the music I'm talking about comes from the 30s and early 40s, though it predates 'jump' and 'swing'.I'd like to learn more about different artists and recordings from this era. Can anyone direct me to a good website or print resource for this? Ideally it'd be a website with some sound samples since I doubt that CDUniverse or CDNow are going to have samples of old recordings like these (if they even carry them at all).
Any information would be much appreciated.
Thanks and have a good weekend.
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LarBo,You will love the Ry Cooder album 'Jazz'....
It's a tribute to Bix Beiderbecke and the recording quality is quite good.Good hunting,
Peter
Jazz Documentary by Ken Burns Shown on PBS can be rented from the library or from a good rental shop.Excellent history of jazz with summaries on some of the leading artists.
Enjoy the music.
hi larBO, one of the more popular music sites with people on this board is all music guide (www.allmusic.com). audio asylum even put up a search box for it on the music forum (it's to your right when you view all threads).go to allmusic.com and click on "jazz". you might want to start with "new orleans/classic jazz" and see what floats your boat.
now, don't blame me if you get fired because you spend half your work week looking at allmusic.com. :-)
"HEY" - BIG A
Aabout two months ago, I got something by Django Reinhardt for the first time. He is from that era.I got djangology vol.1 1934-35. I played it for 8 days straight: that's how incredible it is.
I never heard a jazz guitarist that good before.
and to think he had 2 left fingers disfigured!Some of his tunes are almost too much to bear as I can "feel" every twang internally. That Grappelli sure knows his jazz violin, too.
An amazing guy.
This was recorded in the 70's. Between Grisman's amazing picking and Grappelli's smoking violin this is an amazing album, throw in Rob Wasserman, Mark O'Connor and Mike Marshall and, as OJ said, look out! It also happens to be recorded fairly well.
Didn't know that about Reinhardt. Incredible guitarist. The most naturally gifted guitarist that I've ever heard.I use to think some other guitarists, like Alvin Lee, were fast. But Reinhardt was incredibly fast with a temendous feel and sense of what notes to hit.
Grappeli adds to the great music that they made together.
I love the tonality of those early recordings too.
I would say that he is the world's best guitarist except I have one lp by segovia that I haven't listened to in a while but I remember him as probably better.
But in jazz...., I like the touch of Jim Hall alot, but Reinhardt leaves him in the dust.
Leaves Hendrix too, one of the best with an incredible sense of rhythm and sound, in the dust too.
And that is saying somethin.
Which recording do I go to from here?
Speaking of Jim Hall, if you don't have it yet, you should check out the Bluebird remaster of Paul Desmond's "Desmond Blues." It's Desmond with Jim Hall, backed by orchestra.Just received it from BMG, and the whole album is pure music, with excellent sonics (never heard Desmond's pure tone so beautifully).
Great guitarists? You've named some. I think Eric Clapton and Greg Allman are up there too.BTW, I passed on lessons with a guitar teacher who appreciated Reinhardt. I couldn't dig it as much as the blues. Younger people who "know what they like". Too bad, so sad.
Grapelli, btw, continued to produce great music. Not that many jazz violinists.
Great guitarists? You've named some. I think Eric Clapton and Greg Allman are up there too.I totally agree with that. But not greg, duane allman?
Also, if anyone wants to listen to Jimi Hendrix's 12 minute piece on the woodstock cd, it is easy to tell just how great he was.
Clapton and Duane Allman, two of the best. Pat Metheny is special in his own way too. I sure like his duo with Charlie Haden.
"""Grapelli, btw, continued to produce great music. Not that many jazz violinists."""Agree too. I'm ready to drag out the lps I have had by him for a long time but I probaly haven't played them in 20 years.
A wealth of information, and it's going to be alot of fun sorting through it all and exploring 'new' music (to us at least).I really appreciate the time everyone put into pointing me in the right direction(s). Thanks for your help.
under "You Guys are gonna Scare Him Away".
"If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving's probably not for you".
I actually like both Ornette Coleman and Weather Report, and though I'm no scholar in the area know a bit about jazz (mostly from the 50's forward).....but am always looking to learn more so thanks for the tips. I'm especially naive about the early stuff (20s, 30s and 40s), but am working on it. Ordered the Hot Fives/Hot Sevens set last night to supplement the (little bit of) Armstrong we've already got.I appreciate the help.
Not knocking Weather Report or Ornette - just think they are a terrible place to start for anyone new to jazz.Here's a couple of more: Fletcher Henderson "A Study In Frustration" Boxed LP set.
Re-creations: Vince Giordano "Quality Shout" - The Louisiana Repertory Jazz Ensemble of New Orleans: "Uptown Jazz", REAL traditional New Orleans Jazz.
If you like singers: A 4-CD set, "Mrs. Swing" - Mildred Bailey (Wonderful!) and most any Early Billie Holiday.
Also - be aware that the Louis 5's and 7's, while containing lots of good stuff - are spotty.
PS: Always glad to help!
"If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving's probably not for you".
Here are some early jazz recommendations. Robert Parker has done good restorations of some of the early greats. They used to be distributed by Lousiana Red Hot Records. They are now available at:http://svalanderaudio.com/shoppen/parkereng.php
I have Bix Beiderbecke and Jelly Roll Morton, but this new distributer seems to have dropped the Morton recording. Other musicians on this series who are worth listening to are Jack Teagarten and Fats Waller.
Fats Waller was one of the three great stride pianists. The other two were Willie the Lion Smith and James P. Johnson. Here are good recordings from each of these:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001NNA/ref=qid=1088384461/sr=36-pd_sr_ec_ir_m/ref=sr_36_pd_sr_ec_ir_m_m/104-8562541-3983940
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001DM5/qid=1088384498/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/104-8562541-3983940
A modern pianist who plays pre-jazz songs of Scott Joplin through the stride masters is the Norwegian Morten Gunnar Larsen. His album Fingerbreaker is a good survey of these pianists.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70406272104550823&sql=Ainr9kectaq7z
Another contemporary musician who does some interesting things with music of the past--in this case Bix Beiderbecke--is Geoff Muldaur. On his recording, "Private Astronomy" he arranges Beiderbecke songs for a small stage band, The Futuristic Ensemble, that includes Loudon Wainwright III and Butch Thomson. It's quite an engaging listen that reminds me somewhat of Kurt Weil's music. Here's a link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C3I2R/qid=1088385204/sr=11-1/ref=sr_11_1/104-8562541-3983940
I endorse the recommendation to try the Red Hot Jazz site (see below)
There are some 750 pages of information and records you can listen to.
I've found this a real treasure chest of information and most records you could ever want from the 20's, 30's, and 40's.Cheers
Bob
Start with the book "Early Jazz" by Gunther Schuller and get to hear most of the recordings he discusses at Redhotjazz.com.
My initiation to early jazz was Armstrong's Hot Five/Hot Seven recordings, courtesy of a friend many years ago. That's a great place to start. If you don't have 'em, buy the boxed set NOW.
KMHD in Portland is also on the web at KMHD.ORG, or at lease used to
be. Their "trad jazz" shows are on each Sat and Sun mornings starting
at 9am.Have you heard Louis Armstrong's Hot Fives and Sevens? Have you
heard Fletcher Henderson's band, or Don Redmond's various bands
of the times? Early Ellington? If not you should. Most of it
is available on cd.Also, if you pick an artist from the era, look him up on allmusic.com,
and then follow links, you get a wealth of information.You can also check out redjotjazz.com
Enjoy.
Mike
this Washington, DC station broadcasts for three hours (7:00pm to 10:00pm) on Saturday nights.
XM Satellite Radio has several jazz channels 24/7. Real Jazz is a favorite, but when I want to hear some of the earlier stuff, I put on the 40s channel.
is on the net as kkjz.org. early am on sat and sun gives you the swingin years and following that is mostly bop. just listening to that station will up your jazz iq.wbgo in jersey is likely on the net too. they are the sister station to kkjz.
...regards...tr
They used to be KLON, and since they switched I can never keep their call letters straight. Will listen tomorrow morning and try to take notes. My wife would like to get some CDs and we don't know where to start.Thanks.
pick the date, scroll the time, its all there. then go to circuitcity.com or bestbuy.com and order. no shipping charges from either.;^)
...regards...tr
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