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• Re: Satisfactory Brahms First - chaprajilla 12:43:15 03/23/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  What about Solti/CSO ? That's easily my favorite version
  
  

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• Reason for re-visiting this - billeames 11:56:00 03/19/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  Thanks for your inputs. The reason I re-visit this is that I find that this seems to me a very hard symphony to perform well, but it is a favorite of mine. Plus my opinion changes sometimes, and I like to hear your opinions. Most performances I have heard do not excite me, just not energetic enough. When they are, sometimes the balance is not to my liking (too much emphisis on strings). I have not heard some of the above, (Dorati, Van Beinem) I have Furwangler DG 1951?, and Tarha 1951 NDSR Furwangler (great). I was concentrating on stereo ones for my examples. My favorite mono version of the ones I have heard is Jochum BPO with Furwangler Tarha (1951) not quite as good sound. I can't argue with Toscanini especially the remastered RCA. I sold my 1990 RCA version and bought the remastered 1999 version (2 fer).

  Regarding Szell, yes its good but not up to the others I have mentioned (in my opinion). I have it.

  I would like to hear the Van Beinum (I have his Bruckner 5,7,8,9 on Philips Dutch Masters). I have too many versions already. But I like it.

  
  
  

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• Re: Satisfactory Brahms First - Bob Neill 16:08:35 03/16/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  Nidermyer van Schlector conducted a definitive performance in 1904 on wax with the Southeast Wesphalia Philharmonic. Of course it's lost but nothing else can compete so don't bother. If it's not very olde, hard to find, and on some primitive medium, it's gotta be a loser. Like old ballplayers, old tymes, old English, etc. Sorry.
  
  

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• Re: Satisfactory Brahms First - Todd Krieger 12:11:16 03/16/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  The real sleeper Brahms One is Christoph von Dohnanyi and the Cleveland Orchestra, on Teldec CD.
  
  

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• Re: Satisfactory Brahms First - John N 10:36:16 03/16/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  The relatively newly released Toscanini set (recorded in London in the mid 50s by Legge) on Testament (?) is definitely worth a listen. The set is of the four Brahms symphonies.
  
  

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• Bruno Walter - Pat D 09:36:15 03/16/04 (3)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  Nice, sonically refurbished reissue on Sony, originally on Columbia. Really fine, gripping performance with sound which is quite well balanced.
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  • Re: Bruno Walter - Corbu 13:23:51 03/17/04 (2)
    In Reply to: Bruno Walter posted by Pat D on March 16, 2004 at 09:36:15:

    my first exposure to the Brahms Symphonies was the B.Walter Columbia recordings. I still have not heard recordings that satisfy me as much as those performances did.
    
    

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    • Yep, Walter. - edta 16:30:24 03/17/04 (1)
      In Reply to: Re: Bruno Walter posted by Corbu on March 17, 2004 at 13:23:51:

      I think my first experience was Ormandy, but it's Walter these days.
      
      

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      • Re: Yep, Walter. - Pat D 11:58:06 03/18/04 (0)
        In Reply to: Yep, Walter. posted by edta on March 17, 2004 at 16:30:24:

        Walter's recordings of the 2nd and 3rd symphonies are also wonderful and there is the 4th is very fine, too, though for the 4th I prefer Fritz Reiner and the Royal Philharmonic, reissued on Chesky.
        
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• None of the above! (Sorry) - clarkjohnsen 09:01:38 03/16/04 (1)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  I reach back further for the great ones.

  Mengelberg

  Scherchen

  Celibedache, Milan

  Furtwaengler, 1952 (live concert)

  Also:

  Toscanini, Philharmonia (except first mvt)

  van Beinum

  Krauss

  Try any two of those to see what I mean.

  clark
  
  

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  • vanBeinum Brahms One - RakeAngle 18:40:35 03/16/04 (0)
    In Reply to: None of the above! (Sorry) posted by clarkjohnsen on March 16, 2004 at 09:01:38:

    Clark, referring to the EvB, I'm assuming you mean the '51 Decca (nicely refurbished on King Super Analogue LP - no hum, no pitch sagging). I'll second that, and also add the Mercury Kubelik/Chicago.
    
    

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• This is great! - M. Lucky 16:12:29 03/15/04 (2)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  I love it that you keep revisiting this! It's been fun reading your periodic updates, and they've prompted me to revisit (and sometime re-evaluate) some of my Brahms 1 favorites.

  A couple thoughts: your list has most of big faves--Jochum, Toscanini, Klemperer--but there are a couple really good ones I know of that you don't mention. Have you heard Szell? I imagine you must have, since it's so easy to find, so I'll assume that one wasn't to your tastes. How about Levine? That's another good 'un, though I don't know if it's out on CD. Also, re Toscanini, have you heard the earlier recordings? Or just the '50s RCA? There's a 1940 version on Naxos that's very good, more flexible in tempo than the rather hard-driven (but still marvellous!) RCA.
  
  

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  • He's definitely heard Levine!:-)... - SE 03:51:36 03/16/04 (1)
    In Reply to: This is great! posted by M. Lucky on March 15, 2004 at 16:12:29:

    As has been pointed out to me before (:-), actually reading the words on the page is the KEY to comprehending written communication!
    
    

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    • D'oh! (nt) - M. Lucky 09:41:50 03/16/04 (0)
      In Reply to: He's definitely heard Levine!:-)... posted by SE on March 16, 2004 at 03:51:36:

      nt
      
      

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• Have you heard Dorati/LSO (Mercury) or Van Beinum/Concertgebouw (Philips)? - Russell 16:10:33 03/15/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Satisfactory Brahms First posted by billeames on March 15, 2004 at 12:09:03:

  I think these are both quite fine and might suit your tastes.

  Russell
  
  

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