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Lets say I ever want to upgrade from the LRS which speaker(S) represent a major upgrade for the least amount of money ?I have plenty of amp power and a modest size living room.
it can be any kind of speaker - including buying used or even a DIY project provided it does not have insanely complex internal baffling.
I am sensitive to brittleness and stridency in the treble range.
I find that speakers that dont have driver coherency suck.
Love the sound of AUDIO note .... hate the sound of Martin Logan.
Not sensitive to horns ... hate mushy bass ,,,, dont like most sub woofers - dont like many but not all metal dome tweeters
not looking for a ultra neutral boring sound either.
more interested in an emotionally involving speaker over a accurate one
Edits: 11/18/22 11/18/22Follow Ups:
Sorry you don't like MartinLogans. They do take some experimenting to get placement right, but I find the effort worth making. Great soundstage, detail, dynamic range, and coherence. I use a vintage McIntosh tube amp. For the money, a nice choice.
Electrostatics are hard not to like. I've heard the ML 15a's. I've heard the 30.7's. I've heard top tier box speakers. I've heard the Sound Lab 545's (I'd like to hear the 945's). I don't get the "precise sound suspended in the air" quite as much from others as I do from electrostatics.Placement is kind of hard and the small sweet spot is a problem. I keep moving my head just a bit between recordings.
Also, ML's are expensive compared to Maggie's.
Edits: 11/26/22
MLS can be expensive, compared to LRS and 1.7. However, they are competitive with other planar models.
MLS can be expensive, compared to LRS and 1.7. However, they are competitive with other planar models.
3.5 (pair in Ca going for an insane $1400).
I'm using 3.3s. I bought them cheap years ago and sent them in for re-glue. 1.6s may be more coherent. But I like a fun, enjoyable sound, not just coherence or imaging.
I've heard very coherent gunned 1.6s which were great, but I prefer my 3.3s.
I've also heard an expensive ML system that had perfect imaging - I could see each member of Steely Dan standing around the stage. That was amazing thing that I will alway remember, but it was not fun to me like Maggies are.
where do you see that ?
here
LA area (no affiliation).
In order of sonic improvement:#1. Put the panels into braced stands (such as Mye Stands).
#2. Get P.Gunn - or any good furniture maker - to make you up some hardwood frames (to replace the stock MDF frames).
#3. Replace the stock XO components with high quality coils & caps.
Andy
Edits: 11/19/22
I'm going to give the intro version a try. Their program works especially well on directional speakers. They use Sanders electrostatics in their listening room. Should work well with LRS.
I ordered a MacBook Air from Costco, with a 90-day return policy. I'm going to run in through the DAC on my Marantz Ruby SACD player. The program comes with a 14-day full refund trial period. If it turns out to be a bust I'll be out nothing.
I've been tempted to try it for quite a while. If it ran on a PC, I'd probably give it a whirl. Maybe it would work on a Hackintosh -- but I'd have to use my old machine, might not be fast enough.
If it worked really well, I'd splurge on the eye tracking.
I suggest get a set a used T4a's, and forget about looking ahead :)
Last ones I saw for sale were really expensive.
T4a's?
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Gsquared
replaced a set of Ohm 4 with the LRS - no contest - LRS blows them out of the water - and I love Omnis !by the way - got the 4 's for 300 dollars - Doctor in a estate near Mexico border gave them to me for next to nothing - deal of a lifetime
those were an upgrade from a set of 2's that I bought on craigs list for like 250 !
anyway LRS on in a different world from ohm speakers
but REAL WALSH drivers - german physics / ohm f / HRR .... now THOSE are killer
Edits: 11/19/22
That's easy the 1.7i ($2900) will knock your socks off when properly setup for the money. Totally punches well outside it's weight. If not a Magnepan speaker I would suggest the legendary Vandersteen Model 2Ce Signature speaker($3600).
I heard new 3.7s when they came out, but they were way too bright for me. Does that mellow after they are matured?
Didn't find that to be the case when I heard them at Sea Cliff, but then they were very well driven.
In any case, you can easily add tweeter attenuators.
I had a set of the original 2 s bought brand new back in the day for around a grand !holy shit did they go up in price
they were good - not nearly as good as the LRS tho
played them with a first generation set of Cary 300b monoblocks and a Cat preamp
got rid of them for a set of ALTEC 19 and never looked back
Edits: 11/19/22
I know this is a planar speaker forum but the Vandersteen 2Ce signature is a far superior speaker than the LRS. I would say without a doubt it blows it away and yes I've heard both and for the price it should. Vandersteen continues its trickled down methods from his flagship speakers and the lower end models have benefited over the years. The 2Ce signature is a great bang for the buck time and phase classic.
Had Vandys for nearly twenty years before making the leap to Acoustats.
Had a pair of 2Ci and then moved up the line to 3A Sigs. Have heard several of the Maggie models over the years, but so far no experience with the LRS. If I wasn't planning to be buried with my ESLs, I'd definitely be looking hard at another pair of Vandys.
I didn't realize the former.....2000$ level Magnepan is now closer to 3000$
What does that do the used value of my 1.6s? They should be worth about the same number of dollars I paid for 'em.....Kooky....
Too much is never enough
Or that the $1200 Vandy is now $3600!
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