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In Reply to: RE: Luxman and original Quads a good combo? posted by emailtim on August 03, 2021 at 06:42:07
well, I'll be! Hi Tim,
I'm just skeptical that those units are doing this into a dynamic 'R' load
most, if not all of the mfg's measure into a static load plus derate the output at 8ohms so they can claim doubling into half that
there was a lot of chatter on forums about that marketing ploy a few years back ... but if you've seen the measurements up close and personal I'll not quibble about it ... I'm of the school of thought that a fairly consistent voltage output across dynamic loads better reflects an amps ability to drive difficult speaker configurations without 'strain' ... they pull this off in auto sound and a few pro products but as far as fidelity goes? dynamics seem to suffer for some reason ... maybe it's the utilization of monster capacitance so audio quality is strapped to cap quality ... there's certainly ongoing debates about that thorn on the rose
thanks for the reply, quite a surprise! hope you and yours are well
"... I'm just skeptical that those units are doing this into a dynamic 'R' load ..."
Since you don't trust the manufacturers, Stereophile tests, etc. all showing the same results as well as the steel arc welding test with the ML #20 I don't know what to tell you.
I doubt you trust my results either, but here goes. Personally, I have had a ML #336 running Maggies for well over a decade including 1.6, 3.6 and 20.1. You can always make the argument that Maggies are not "dynamic" speakers to skirt the issue, but I have never heard them better in a dealership. Closest I heard was 20.1's at the now defunct Stereo Design in San Diego being driven by ML 33H monoblocks. They also did quite nice on Wilson Audio Sashas and Revel Salons which you might call dynamic speakers.
I have had Pinius, Jeffrey Rowland Design Group, various digital amps, MagTech, Luxman and a few others in the mix. The ML has always been a very consistent powerhouse and not suffered from the clipping and power shortages that I have witnessed with other amps in the rotation.
nope, I said that if you saw it that I'll believe it Tim, no snark at all
especially if a dynamic load was being measured
plus, you've lived with the various set ups
I do try and keep an open mind
but yeah, I AM skeptical of manufacturer claims
I think that everyone should be
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