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In Reply to: RE: Matching the 1.7 =) Krell amps? posted by Branko on January 13, 2021 at 02:38:07
For me, you're traveling down the wrong road. Most advice given here is from guy's living in the states. Well intended, but their situation is totally different from here (Holland), they usually have way bigger houses, large living rooms and giant man caves. Over here the houses are smaller, living rooms are smaller, floors, ceilings and walls are thick cement or heavy stone(different acoustics) and man-caves are a rarity.
Whats your situation? how big is the room? are you sitting near-field? how loud do you listen? Is it heavily damped or lively? so many variables to take into account.
I've set up a few Maggie sets here, in a average room with space to breath(the Maggie's, not you) in a near field set up(6 feet away), 60-80W of class A is enough to let those Maggies sing in the 80- 90 db range.
I would never buy anything without a home trial.....NEVER, thats just wild guessing. if you're considering spending 2.5-3K on a amp and another 1-1.5K on a pre, you should shop for new, or second hand from a dealer. Then you have home trials, guarantees, unlimited choice, ask for discount, it's COVID time, dealers are dying to do business, use that advantage! with a 2 hour drive you can visit dozens of high-end dealers here.
Follow Ups:
OK. Another point of view... from a fellow country man so I should listen...
My livingroom is smallish, tho square. Stone walls(behangen) and a ceiling with a 'span plafond'... on the floor 'laminaat' but with a large carpet. I have had a completely wooden house in my last setup before I moved to Drenthe (bigger room, more US style maybe)
It is kind of a mancave because I don't share it. I've put the speakers 1 meter from the rear wall at least when playing. But one is in a corner. I can't sacrafice all my livingspace for hifi purpuses. My listening volume tends to average at 80 dB as i measured last days with my phone app. Handy!
It has been true in all my maggie experience that if your turn volume up, sound gets way better but not much higher in DB with this amp.
Offcourse you are right in pointing to a dealer with return etc. But I am not able to spend 3-4K on amps. Maybe I should ask Ohm audio in Groningen (nearby for me), they have the 1.7 and many other maggies. Might even be able to listen at home.
Groeten,
Branko
Hey Branko,
Square rooms ain't the best but if thats what it is.........., I would try the 1/3, 2/3 lines set up, usually a good starting point, 1m from the front wall is just not enough, you can always slide them in and out when not listening, close to side walls is no problem.
Less than 3K to spend? thats rough, I would call very dealer that you're willing to drive to and see what amp's you run into, insist on a home trial!
To me, pure class A is unbeatable, and I don't mean Chinese stuff like Usher. Class D's can deliver power, but just don't sing. Considering you're budget, I think you're aiming at a integrated A/B amp with possibly the first 10-15W in class A.
Good luck and happy hunting!
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