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While some work still needs to be finished (installing floating shelf, delivering sectional sofa and completing barn doors), I was able to use the system last night!I tentatively placed the two subs in that offset location and will begin the measuring/optimizing the various settings on the processor for the most linear results.
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Estat,
I also can not see the pictures for whatever reason. I agree with Davey...get yourself a microphone, a microphone stand, and download a free copy of REW if you do not have it already. You will be able to learn a lot more about your system and how to optimize it. If you stream music, you will also be able to use one of the freely available DSP tools to also do room corrections (both ROON and Volumio have decent DSP engines).
You will be able to learn a lot more about your system and how to optimize it.My objective is solely to optimize the positioning of subwoofers and the various settings around them for smooth response in the Schroeder frequencies. Given the usual limitations with family rooms where sound reproduction is not foremost in mind, I am quite happy with results using a wide range of musical content and even a Shuttle launch! The room clearly has modes, but they have been tamed with much experimentation.
The HT is used 99% of the time for TV and movies. I stream in the other music systems and have zero interest in using any full range digital correction. If you follow my moniker, you'll see the other systems where I am able to use room treatments like bass traps.
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You're not going with that puny TV, are you?
Dave.
The 65 incher does look smaller with the greatly wider room. Placement included consideration for eventual replacement with a 75" model to clear the floating shelf that will replace the temporary box situation.
While I don't have lots of 3D titles, that's a feature I'm not looking forward to losing.
Gotta say, the 65" looks small in there. A few years back we bought a 65" for our living room, within minutes of putting it up we looked at each other with the same thought; too small.
It died recently (wasn't too sad about that) and was replaced by a nice 75" LG, ahhh, much better. 85" would be better yet, but 75" is a nice affordable size.
I checked dimensions and an 85" set would fit the space, but I think a 75" would be the sweet spot. We still haven't yet replaced the other wall hangings as well. That pic was taken from the kitchen twenty four feet away. The viewing area from the sectional will be half that distance. Wifey's more the videophile and hasn't yet asked for more inches. ;)I'd also like to upgrade my Sound Lab 790s to 890s, too! I know there is an extension available for the steel frame to accommodate the taller core.
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Lookin' good all around! Sound Labs, yum. :)
My wife and I are both about the same as far as TV's go; we like them, bigger is better, and they're all over the house. We're even considering putting one (we have a spare 39" flat screen) on our covered deck.
She's home all day long every day, so the LR TV is actually more important to her.
now that the sectional we purchased in October finally arrived!
Looks similar to our LR sectional, nice.
experimenting with a number of different pair of subwoofer positions and the myriad high pass/low pass/subwoofer level/parametric EQ settings.
Room has some modes and cannot use the small forest of bass traps implemented upstairs in the music system. Still in all, achieved a relatively flat response in the Schroeder frequencies with few offending spikes in this third octave plot. Overall result is +/- 3 db down to the sub cutoff below 30 hz. Initial results were not so pretty!
You've got 11 data points there. You can't tell jack sh** from that.
Dave.
your ever helpful advice.
Do you ever listen to music or just look at charts?
You're the one that posted the chart.
I mean, if you're going to measure speakers/room, you probably should do it with some contemporary tools from the 21st century. :)
Get your feet wet with REW.
Dave.
you don't.
I don't what?
You're getting all turned around and confused. (Understandable considering your mentality.)
I suggest to do much more measuring and much less listening. You'll become a much more accomplished audiophile. :)
Dave.
Doveryay, no proveryay
Agilist, Musician, Photographer, Audiophile
Magneplanar: 3.7, CC5, MC1, DWM; Outlaw: UltraX12, LFM-1C; Emotiva: XMC-1, PA-1; Nord: Nord One NC500DM; Outlaw: Model 7500; OPPO 205
I think Carnegie Hall was built without (before measuring techniques) and Philharmonic Hall with 20th century knowledge/techniques. We all know how that went, and continues going in the case of PH.
Wonderful analogy!
Dave.
It means (if it really needs explaining) that using millions of dollars and at great inconvenience, acoustical engineers with all their tools and measurements resulted a hall that sounded like s**t, whereas intuition alone produced a world class hall which remains among the world's best. (Additionally ~20 years ago a touch-up up CH's appearance, according to many listeners, damaged its sound.)
for ascertaining the quality of music reproduction than many of us do.Even got temporarily banned at ASR on the LRS thread for his bubbly personality. ;)
Wonder about the acoustics here .
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What part of my 'defense' of the LRS on ASR did you disagree with?? :)You might wonder but, you wouldn't know, would you? :)
Wanna see some charts of my room measurements? :)Dave.
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you just pissed off the delicate sensitivities of Amir with your usual internet persona.
Sorry, have zero interest in seeing any of your charts or any other parts. Your call. Demonstrate as you will.
Love the wall to wall glass and blinds. ;)
What would you suspect the RT60 time is in my room?
Dave.
I suggest to do much more measuring and much less listening.
It's all a matter of priorities. I don't share your dependence upon numbers. If that works for you, great. :)
I'm not seeing any pictures from anyone - Firefox up to date, Chrome the same.
Dave
Really coming together!
and I absolutely love the wood stain ceiling beams! You place those yourself?
You place those yourself?
The contractor did it all. Most of them are cosmetic, but the one above the island is the lower section of triple 18" LVL (laminated veneer lumber) beams that replaced a former wall.
There are also triple 12" LVLs above the ceiling perpendicular to those above the fridge where another wall once existed. And on the outside wall with the French doors, there are triple 24" LVLs which replaced a large brick fireplace.
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