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In Reply to: RE: Reminds me of the Instant Karma Machine story posted by emailtim on September 12, 2020 at 21:27:04
You are both correct. Condo speakers would not survive the condo neighbors.
I would add by eliminating a substantial amount of bass one could most likely have a good relationship with shared wall neighbors and a 30x (or any speaker for that matter) but you're probably limiting yourself to 2/3rds of the total experience.
The other side of the coin (pun intended) being if I can afford a $30K set of speakers and the necessary additional gear needed to propel them I would probably start looking for a house-(unless I'm in a New York, San Fran,Hong Kong, type surrounding).
When I was with my first wife I had my MG1.6's in our first place a 900 sqft condo. That lasted about a year when told I her we needed a bigger place. Fortunately it was during a the 2003 housing boom where we bought it for $250K and precisely a year later sold it for $350K. Minus the penalties that allowed us to find a 3 bdrm 1600 sqft house with a 14x40' Sun room that ended up becoming my music room.
Try nearfield dipole bass -- near your chair so the woofer doesn't have to be turned up, and dipole so it cancels at a distance. A compliant suspension would help as well. And it's a great way to deal with room modes.
Good idea Josh. And elevate the speakers and/or subs off the floor to minimize transferring bass frequencies physically.
I live in a typical chicago 2-flat, on the second floor. The downstairs neighbors work during the day, whilst I am retired. Their dog has never complained about my afternoon listening sessions.
These older, well-built structures are fairly decent when it comes to noise between units, too. I can listen any time day or night at a "reasonable" level - loud enough to be enjoyable, like ~87 dB at my listening position, without bothering anyone downstairs. I think the plaster-on-lath ceiling of the unit below is quieter than modern drywall-on-joist ceilings.
In the past, I have lived in buildings that were converted from industrial spaces to housing.... 14 inch reinforced concrete floors, brick firestop walls... There was a jazz quartet that practiced next door, but it was over a year before I knew they were there. So there are LOTS of apartment-style living situations where one can enjoy hifi. Not everything is built crackerbox style.
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