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In Reply to: RE: What'd your ears say? posted by grantv on July 28, 2020 at 08:10:35
What almost always jumps to mind in such discussions is that three Stereophile editors were unable to hear *any* differences (using selected program material and loudspeakers) when comparing a tubed to solid state amplifier.
('Carver Stereophile Challenge')
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But that was from Bob Carver purposely manipulating a solid state amp in a very sophisticated way to sound exactly like the tube amp used in the challenge. It wasn't meant to prove there is no no sonic differences between tube and solid state amps. Rather that he could make a solid state amp sound like anything he wanted it too.
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Exactly. It wasn't a case of SS vs, tubes, BC's tweaked mid-fi SS amp's sound just happened (?) was made to imitate the sound of a tube amp, costing nearly ten times more (and without its heat).
It was presumed he also could have tweaked his mid-fi product to imitate the sound of a much more costly SS Mark Levinson amp.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/carver-challenge-responses
".... I would love for BC to produce some genuine red-blooded tube amplifier replicas. It will accelerate the growth of NYAL because it would increase the public's awareness of the unique virtues of tubes. ...." Harvey Rosenberg, NYAL.
However, then it would no longer be *UNIQUE* to tubes.
Thanks for posting the link.
The tube/Levinson amp emulations is news to me.
As technology progresses, I wouldn't doubt the sound of any piece of gear could be emulated through DSP providing the base gear is clean enough to serve as the foundation for the DSP to be layered on top of. Bad news for HW manufacturers.
That is pretty much what I recall, but that was a read from quite some time ago...
When Stereophile first published the article they didn't disclose what the target amplifier was. They didn't publish that until years later. Pretty amazing that Bob Carver was able to pull that off. I wish I could afford one of his current tube amps. Interesting that that's all he makes now.
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Interesting.
Do either of you have a link to the story/article/shootout ?
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