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In Reply to: RE: ? New Amps R Best 4 MG's posted by steve.sukiennik on July 22, 2017 at 07:35:52
By far the best approach to the T 1D is to biamp. Since high end HT multichannel power amps depreciate rapidly in the used market you can obtain real bargains.
The Theta Dreadnaught linear amp is among my favorites - get a 5 channel version.
BAT has a modular multichannel amp so you can use it in any config from 4 to 6 channels
Lexicon also has a great multichannel amp either in 5 or 7 channels LX5 or 7
Also look out for Proceed and Krell multichannel amps.
Other options on the cheap are the Adcom 7805 or 7807
Follow Ups:
Hay Satie,
Is hearsay true that Proceed & Odyssey, as great as they R, have tons of later probs along w/service probs: that's Y they're always 4 sale? Wen U mentioned Classe' YaHHH baby, love their prods. Like ML, Classe' doesn't seem THAT much better at lower volumes but Boy, turn 'em up LOUD & they 2 don't fall apart & have that 'DARK' sound U no I luv.
U saved me thousands. I mite use my Quad 606 on the tymp's bass panels cause it pumps & NEVER GETS HOT, then look 4 an ultimate, inexpensive, clean & clear smaller wattage power amp 4 the tweeters. Maybe a low wattage Belles amp. Way less $$ than paying 4 a balls out better single amp. Yahhhh
AAAAND, does monoblocking really blow single amp away, as they ALL say. I'm sure it does w/their increased circuit isolation.
What's w/people having their TT on goofy shelfing rite atop their electronics. What R they thinking or not thinking. Come on.
Lastly, my ML-10A doesn't have any type of caps, altho their older pres do so I can't do U'r suggested cap upgrade, I guess.
Thx,
Steve
The main advantage in monos, so far as I am concerned, is that you have more power supply. Second you have less speaker wire, then you have less separation issues from one channel modulating the other either by coupling (magnetic or capacitive) or via a shared power supply.
I do think a high bias class A/AB amp with no feedback like those I suggested would do well.
The ML10 has caps in the power supply and in the ground circuits even if they are not directly in the signal path (there is one in the phono section) - as you say the pre is direct coupled. Lower ESR caps will improve performance even in those less siginificant positions.
Hay Satie,
Thx, I'm not yet ready 4 monos but I guess I gotta get a B4 amp Xover 2 add a tweeter amp. IT HAS 2 B the hot set 4 years 2 come, not a temp soln.
I'll open up my ML-10a pre tho it supposedly is nothing like the prior ML-10, not sure. I'll let U no. So what do U think? Quad 606 bass panels, new high end lo watt clean amp 4 tweets?
Steve
Hay Satie,
Thanks, just what I need 2 no but I'll still have 2 introduce a dirty electric X-over? Rite??? They're all dirty? Rite???
Maybe ML makes a clean one? Who else & $$$$$?
Thx,
Steve
You can biamp just using the existing T 1D crossover - no electronic crossover - each amp channel sees one filter and its driver. All it requires is the jumpers to be rewired according to the diagram on the speaker's plate.
Hay Satie,
Thanks again. Now I C what U mean. I should use 1 amp going 2 the tweeters w/cap in line. Then use another amp 2 the bass panels w/choke in line. Net effect: biamp w/conventional passive X-over elements after the amps. It wood B better overall since each amp will only have 1 passive element 2 go through. I always thought it all had 2 go through an X-over B4 the amps.
RITE????? No longer having 1 amp 2 go through both X-over elements.
Y didn't I C that?
What was the mention of passive X-over B4 amplifaction. I'm still twisted?
Thx,
Steve
Hay Satie,
Thanksss,
Finally what I really need 2 know!
I'm much pickier then U mite think.
I'm way past using T-1D's back plate connections.
They've been stripped years ago along w/all those nasty connections & the dirty 6 strand steel wire? NUTS, what were they thinking back then.
WHAT A DIFFERENCE. Everything especially the highs just blossomed.
Sort of like wen U get a new TT, TA & cart.
I use new GOOD cleaner wire all the way up to the drivers.
UNREAL!!!
Steve
Then you just need to rewire a bit to biamp.
What are you using for power amp now?
Steve, WTF?! Why do you keep insisting all electronic x-overs are "dirty"? Because you had a pos (which you never identify) years ago? So what? You don't even need an electronic x-o to bi-amp Tympanis, as everyone here keeps telling you. Do you have a problem with reading comprehension, or do you not even read the replies to your ridiculous statements?
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