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In Reply to: RE: Got a note from Wendell posted by Norman M on July 01, 2017 at 10:14:08
I don't think they can stop making improvements because people have older models. Don't you think the old models would lose even more value if they changed the model number, e.g., to 3.8? The fact that there will be new models seems to me a given when you buy electronics.
I thought that it was nice that they gave current owners the ability to upgrade (though I don't know personally whether the difference would be worse the cost and the hassle of shipping them).
Also, Magnepan really doesn't change their models often compared to many companies and as we know (since both of us have 35-year-old speakers!) the differences between models are incremental so they retain good resale value.
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Josh,
You've missed the point.
Certainly Magnepan should not stop making improvements to their designs. The question is how much (if any) of those improvements should be divulged to the customer base.
I thought I was very clear on that point with my first post.
Dave.
I got your point, I was replying to Norman's post which seemed to raise other issues. As you know, I'm very much in the camp that says they should release some specifics when possible (e.g., not proprietary info), because this seems to me an unnecessary sticking point between Magnepan and some of its most loyal customers.
One thing I can tell you knowing Wendell as I do, this isn't just a marketing gimmick. He personally despises the kind of wet dream advertising that sells products on the basis of technology and specs and believes that the only thing that really counts is how the product sounds in a blind test. This is very much a part of their corporate philosophy -- they won't ship anything that doesn't improve sound in a blind AB test. It's I think one of the reasons they have such a good price/performance ratio -- rather than just throwing tech in, they use it only if it makes a significant improvement in the sound of the speaker.
Still, I'm not enough of a purist to claim that I'm not interested in what's under the hood. :-) Hell, I just got an AHB2 because I was fascinated by the design approach -- feedforward technology used in an attempt to get Class A-level performance from a low-bias AB/Class H design. (I'd say they've been partially successful -- it's probably the cleanest amplifier I've ever heard, it makes the A21 which is already high bias AB and has a great distortion spectrum, sound coarse and thick by comparison, but it seems to have some dynamic problems on piano -- still ABing it with the A21. One thing it's taught me -- those low-level distortion products really are audible as I'd suspected and despite the hoary experiments that say they shouldn't be.)
Josh,
Yeah, I got you. I don't think it's a marketing gimmick either....but it looks that way in certain aspects.
Once again Wendell has responded with an answer to a question that wasn't asked. Oh well.
Don't let any firecrackers set the house on fire.
Cheers,
Dave.
LOL, didn't happen. I try to keep the windows closed on the fourth, that being one of the reasons. :-)
Isn't it a bit misleading representing them as 'ribbon speakers' when in fact they're quasi-ribbon?
And if it's a "hey relax; it's no big deal, get over it" -why not call the entire line of Maggies ribbon speakers?
Magnepan is usually scrupulous about that, so I'd guess it's an oversight.
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