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In Reply to: RE: Acoustic Treatment/Diffusers/ My Situation posted by paul3 on June 06, 2017 at 07:46:51
Zen it is, nice, clean, light, exactly the opposite of my room... which I sometimes thinks needs cheering up.
Although I think the paper diffusor you posted would do little, it might be a good balance o the right side to offset the closed shade for listening. I do not like an unbalanced room if preventable, one of those (I)might(/I) help.
The wall behind the speakers, I agree with Satie. Some fake ficus trees, or standing diffusors of some sort at first reflection point, or somewhere along the path between rear of panels and first reflection point (a friend/spouse and mirror slid along the wall can find this).
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Thanks to everyone for your valuable and kind comments. This place is a treasure! My plan is to mount the paper gizmos on thin board of some kind so I can easily move them to find the best (if any) spot.
I'll report back. I'm also considering DIY absorption panels on the ceiling. Am I correct in thinking that in general, planars don't benefit from bass traps in the corners of the front wall?
BTW, Grant, I'm "stuck" with this imbalanced room but feel fortunate to be able to have a dedicated, uncluttered room for my speakers. Audio components were moved to the closest corner of the adjacent living room.
Fake ficus trees-hmmmm- My wife's gonna love that! :)
Am I correct in thinking that in general, planars don't benefit from bass traps in the corners of the front wall?That is definitely contrary to measured results in my room. While my stats have a more arced radiation angle than yours, they are still dipoles. I spent hours experimenting with various distances of speaker to front wall and bass trap placement measuring each variation.
I was going to begin my post by saying that regardless of who thinks what, you will benefit from experimenting. This is not intended to be a slight on any of the experienced folks here, but if you know the story of inmate Mike Lavigne you will appreciate the sentiment. Originally, I spread my bass trap forest around the room evenly and found that was not as effective as bunching the larger ones behind the speakers. You'll also find a third octave graph showing my success.
There are pics of my arrangement in the gallery (click my moniker) which use traps, some diffraction in the form of skylines and of course, some fake ficus plants! My room is a bit different than yours in that it is (fortunately) not a square box having asymmetric features and dormers. The open space behind your room proper should prove to be an advantage to an otherwise squarish format.
Good luck in the process. Room treatments can have a profound effect on the sound quality. I even employ some DIY treatments for the garage system. :)
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Thank you very much, E-Stat. I will indeed experiment. On my short to-do list of projects that are dear to my heart is DIY absorption panels. I plan to start with 4" thick panels in the corners of the front wall, And I might even be able to live with some artificial ficuses (or is it "fici") - an inexpensive, readily mobile, and easily done diffuser.My room measures 11' x 13 ' There are no dormers. There's a 3'x5' opening on the inside wall that opens to the kitchen (we removed a cabinet to get more light from one room to the other, as well as an open doorway to the kitchen. Overall, the space sounds surprisingly good, even with the hardwood floor and windows.
Again, thanks for your helpful comments. One more thing, Mr. Lavigne's set-up, is, as the saying goes, a mind-blower!
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Overall, the space sounds surprisingly good, even with the hardwood floor and windows.
The sound will tend to scatter about with all that reflectivity and harm coherence. It needs to be tamed for optimum results. I suspect there is quite a bit of slap echo at present.
One more thing, Mr. Lavigne's set-up, is, as the saying goes, a mind-blower!
Did you follow the link at the bottom? After spending tens of thousands of dollars having professional sound experts design his room from the ground up, he continued to find ways to better the results.
"Did you follow the link at the bottom? After spending tens of thousands of dollars having professional sound experts design his room from the ground up, he continued to find ways to better the results."
I just followed the link at the bottom. Words (and finances) fail me. :)
reminds me of the Yogi Berra line:
"In theory, there is no difference between practice and theory. In practice, there is". :)
Experiment! Try different approaches - measure the results for things like bass traps.
If I do this in a proper manner, I'll need to learn how to properly measure the results. More research is in order as to methodology, since I'm not a technical kinda guy.
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