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In Reply to: RE: I finally heard some Magnepan 20.7s at my local dealer.. I am in love... posted by Elizabeth on December 04, 2013 at 11:20:20
Someone mentioned the wait was very long.. No more. The current (as of 12/06/2013) is about two weeks, plus a few days extra for shipping, up to another week shipping if far away.. etc..
I wanted to verify how long a wait in case it WAS still six months etc.. Wating to have the cash, then waiting another 6 months would be a real bummer.
So I thought i would find out the wait and order about the right timing to get them.. But that is no longer an issue.
I also asked about special finishing of sides.. They send the bare wood to you, you get it finished, then you send the parts back to Magnepan, and they build your speaker with the parts you sent back. $100 plus your shipping back to them cost.
Not bad.
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That is cool that they offer the styles service. So what are you going to get? Decided yet?
One wood stain I really like is red oak. I have a DVD sleving thing I made and the wood is red oak, and the stain is red oak. The way the grain areas sucks all the stain in and turn dark, then the surface wood is a nice deep reddish color.
Looks great with just the typical stain/finish in a can.(I did like five coats on the shelving. The final gloss just from the Minwax stain... is great. The surface is smooth and shiny, yet the grain areas are dark looking and dull. COOL. ((I never even sanded the wood.. It turned out wonderful.))
So I maybe would get the unfinished rails and do them in red oak.
If I did I might get the silvery/grey cloth color. (which looks stunning with the Cherry trim.)
If I do not do the rail staining thing.. i will go for same as my 3.6 which is light oak with white cloth.
The black color cloth is dramatic, but my apartment is dark enough without some big BLACK things in the room.
Have you cleared the extra weight load with the building owner (kind of like waterbeds in apartment buildings) ? =)
I have noticed it is a lot easier to lug the 3.6's around versus the 20.1's.
Somewhere I calculated what my records weigh.. and they plus shelving are about two tons...
No problem. It could be if I lived in an earthquake zone.. But i do not.
Though I DO know a coworker who was evicted from his apartment when the ceiling below his was cracking and bulging downward badly.. But he had 25,000 record albums in his apartment.
I have way less than that.. and it is still two tons..
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Yes indeed and Ouch, 'my back'!
Should you not already know about these:
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<"Floating" Maggies
In terms of mounting Maggies (or any other loudspeakers), my perspective was changed forever when I first tried "floating" mine on sets of well made roller bearings.
I'd always heard loudspeakers must be rigidly mounted to perform their best. After hearing Maggies "afloat", then hearing several other speakers in on-vs.-off demos of some Townshend Seismic Speaker Stands (a commercial way to "float" speakers), I realized it is the drivers that must be rigidly mounted on the baffle from which they launch their waves, not the body of the speaker rigidly mounted to the room in which it resides.
I'd used roller bearings under other gear and found consistent, repeatable benefits in every area of audio (and video) I know how to describe. I was not prepared for just how much impact they'd have on the performance of loudspeakers. As with the Townshend product, which accomplishes essentially the same thing (i.e. isolation), I would not have believed the differences had I not experienced them for myself. I described having the speakers standing on the floor as having them "bound and gagged" by comparison.
After putting the speakers back directly on the floor for comparison, a James Taylor recording sounded like James had a bit of a sore throat and the strings on his Martin needed changing. Replacing the roller bearing platform restored James crystal clear voice and the shimmer of the strings on his Martin.
And yes, bass extension and "punch" are two of the many benefits. But I still use a pair of subs below 30 Hz. And the subs too are "afloat".>
Perhaps Magnepan
They look light but can be very deceiving. I manage to man handle my 1.7s but have since learned not to even consider trying with the 3.7s yet alone the 20.7s.
"They look light but can be very deceiving. I manage to man handle my 1.7s but have since learned not to even consider trying with the 3.7s yet alone the 20.7s."
Although I'm 78 years old and somewhat handicapped, I'm able to push and shove my 3.6s around quite easily, then again maybe the 3.7 is a bit heavier?
I had to carry the pair of 1.7s up 3 flights of stairs by myself but wouldn't dare attempt it with the 3.7s and 20.7s. I remember bruising my hands with the 1.7s. I don't think the 3.7s are significantly heavier then the 3.6s but lugging them is a whole different story lol.
Thinking over that scenario, I believe it's a non-issue. It's the dealer's responsibility to deliver them into your listening room, unpack and set them up, and wire 'em to your amp(s), confirming that they play properly. That's what happened with my 3.6s and I'd be willing to bet my life that the same would happen with a 20.7.
You are quite right indeed. The dealer would normally do it. In my case however, unboxing and setting up is very much part of the experience I rather take on myself. Maybe it's part of my gollum syndrome..leave my precious alone...
Yeah so any injuries due to handling the Maggies are wholly self inflicted.
Even if I was physically capable of doing something like that (and at least 50 years younger) my dealer's crew has a ton of experience doing it, so I'd be no match for them.
"Three flights of stairs" is a whole different ballpark. I can just about get a pair of shoelaces up three flights of stairs.
Anything like 3.6s, I'd call a local moving man to do the jo for me. (I have such people both willing and happy to earn some money moving items around within a household.)
MY God how do you organize 25,00 albums ?? I have about a 1000 and it's a challenge !
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They sound the same no mater the color but get what you want because it will be a long time before you can upgrade to a better speaker.
Wholly agree. In spite of my troubles with my pair of 20.7, it's still hard to make any concrete decision to go in another direction.
330 miles.. five hours drive.
So if I need to return stuff it is not too bad. My local dealer is great too.
I can understand having problems and being in another country.. Yikes.
PS. have you solved your 20.7 issues to your satisfaction?
And are they good now?
Unfortunately at this current moment the problem is unresolved. In honesty I love the 20.7s. However, at this point it's a love hate relationship due to it not being trouble free. When it works, it's something else all together. Seriously contemplating a change but it would be a hard decision to make. Having gone through the Minis, 1.7, 3.7 and now the 20.7s...everyone of them have been trouble free except the 20.7s.
This however should not be taken as a damper to your quest in owning the 20.7s. Who knows...perhaps my pair were jinxed lol.
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