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RE: Tympani 1d ad

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In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by Norman M on August 06, 2012 at 09:55:05

I put in the $1100 bid to probe his reserve price. The early bids mean nothing until they exceed the seller's reserve.

I found the same speakers offered elsewhere for $4K, so the reserve is probably pretty high.

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RE: Tympani 1d ad - Roger Gustavsson 13:13:02 08/07/12 (13)
$4k is far too much for Tympani I-D. Even for a fresh pair of IVa. I think the cost of refurbishment is somewhere between 1300-1500.

Roger Gustavsson
- RE: Tympani 1d ad - EldRick 13:50:57 08/07/12 (12)
  Funny you should mention it - there's a pair of "single-owner" unrefreshed IV-A's on eBay - asking $3950.
  - RE: Tympani 1d ad - josh358 18:04:14 08/07/12 (11)
    Which is insane -- they go for about $1800. (Actually, not insane given the quality of the speaker, just way above their usual selling price.)
    
    Agree with Roger, that 1-D selling price is too high as well. By way of contrast the price on Audiogon is for a newly refurbished pair so you can expect them to be worth about the usual + the cost of the refurb and shipping, although I've noticed that refurbished units don't seem to bring quite that much of a premium -- which makes them a better deal than buying unrefurbished ones and having Magnepan do the work yourself.
    - RE: Tympani 1d ad - EldRick 19:24:00 08/07/12 (10)
      All of which probably puts the selling price of the pair on AG at maybe $2300 on a good day, and the IVa on eBay for less (being original).
      - RE: Tympani 1d ad - josh358 08:48:38 08/08/12 (9)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by EldRick on August 07, 2012 at 19:24:00
        
        Yeah, I've never watched Audiogon auctions, but on Ebay auction prices seem to double on the last day. 1-D's go for $800-$1000 now (more than I paid for my slightly-used pair in the early 80's!), so if you add the cost of the refurb and shipping to that, it probably gets pretty close to that anticipated selling price.
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - EldRick 09:08:49 08/08/12 (6)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by josh358 on August 08, 2012 at 08:48:38
        
        Interesting - I just talked to the Repairs lady at Magnepan about costs for a 1D rebuild.
        
        She tells me that the basic refresh, re-glue, re-cover, etc. runs $400-600, After that, if you need new membranes, they are $200 each, xo electronics perhaps another $200-300. If cracked frame - another couple. I'd also pop for replacing the horrible original screw-connector panel with the newer version, ala IVa.
        
        So I'm pleasantly surprised. Apparently the $1300-1400 figure I've seen bandied about would probably include 2-way shipping, so the total for a renewed speaker might well run under $2K.
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - josh358 09:39:04 08/08/12 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by EldRick on August 08, 2012 at 09:08:49
        
        Heh, answered my question a second after I'd posted it!
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - Roger Gustavsson 22:55:12 08/09/12 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by josh358 on August 08, 2012 at 09:39:04
        
        The seller has added:
        
        "As of this writing 3 days to go....the bid is $1,100.00. The auction reserve on the speakers is $3200. of which we would have the winner pay Magnepan the remainder due which is about $1850-2,000, and the rest to us. So if the speakers sell for the reserve minimum of $3,200... you would write a check to us for around $1200 and the rest you would pay Magnepan directly- we would write a bill of sale giving you ownership of the speakers and have them shipped wherever you wish."
        
        Roger Gustavsson
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - josh358 06:17:40 08/10/12 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by Roger Gustavsson on August 09, 2012 at 22:55:12
        
        Hmmm . . . that sounded a bit high to me initially since I checked the Blue Book price of 1-D's for another thread a few days ago, but then it occurred to me that he's probably including his shipping cost to Magnepan in the $1200. So I guess it's about right.
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - Norman M 08:34:14 08/13/12 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by josh358 on August 10, 2012 at 06:17:40
        
        http://app.audiogon.com/listings/magnepan-magneplanar-tympani-1d-new-in-box-shipped-dire
        
        I can't help but wonder how that will play out. Considering the amount of the reserve, it's a bit wierd the highest bid was only $350 short. Perhaps the purpose was to try to negotiate a deal privately, if permitted(?) at Audiogon.
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - josh358 09:15:00 08/13/12 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by Norman M on August 13, 2012 at 08:34:14
        
        I think that does happen sometimes with auctions, not even sure what Audiogon's policy is on that. But I wouldn't make any accusations.
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - Norman M 07:58:12 08/14/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by josh358 on August 13, 2012 at 09:15:00
        
        None implied.
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - EldRick 08:53:08 08/08/12 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by josh358 on August 08, 2012 at 08:48:38
        
        I'm going to look at a pair locally - one side not working. Asking $400-500. Add in $500 for 2-way shipping and maybe $1400 for the rebuild, and $2300 total would do it, so the two guys asking $4K are a bit high.
        
        RE: Tympani 1d ad - josh358 09:35:55 08/08/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Tympani 1d ad posted by EldRick on August 08, 2012 at 08:53:08
        
        That's a better price than you'll usually see online, though it may be because one side is completely dead. This is going by the Audiogon blue book and they say nothing about condition. But it's clear from the graph that 1-D prices have been steadily rising in the last couple of years.
        
        Have you asked Magnepan how much the two-way shipping and rebuild would cost? I'm guessing you're right that it would be less expensive but it's worth calling Sheila to find out for sure.

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