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In Reply to: RE: Shifting instruments and room layout posted by JBen on March 01, 2012 at 23:18:54
Couple of thoughts before I go to kip.I used to have tweeters in. IIRC, the sound stage was much more defined, but at a loss of depth. I might switch back that way. I will for a bit, at least so I can remember why I liked tweeters out better.
The room actually feels quite cramped with the big ol' Magneplanars there, so you aren't wrong on that bit. I feel with a couple of extra feet I'd be able to widen up the speakers a bit for a more expansive stage and still improve image resolution. In order to bring them out far enough from the wall, I had to tighten them up together a lot. Before I had them about 2 feet from the back wall.
I doubt the panels I built are causing many issues, but it is a possibility. I realize there is a lot of absorption behind the maggies, but none on the sides. I built the big ones to set in the corners as bass traps. I wonder if I built two more smaller ones for the sides walls, and set the "bass traps" on their sides, angled along the wall for trapping bass.
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try listening to the pole piece side. Just as an experiment.
I run that way, tweeters IN.
Too much is never enough
Magnavox NB530MGX
I actually just flipped the speakers for poles facing (tweeters out). Definitely different. Can't say better. Certainly not worse. Funny thing though... before I had all the channels the same level, with the exception of the right woofer slightly higher to bring the woofer image to center.
Flipping-and-reversing the speakers, I had to dial DOWN both right tweeter and woofer to center it. Not what I was expecting.
JBen, the picture isn't loading :-(
Huh, I missed this one. Did the image ever show up? If not, let me know and I'll try something else.
Yes, it did.
That room is tough especially with the door and the fireplace.
Here are 2 alternate options that might work better:
The sideways setup
or the Rooze
Try the rooze with the tweeters further from you and both panel's edges pointing right at you.
Afterwards we discovered faith; it's all you need
Well, it is just past 3am here and I was about to sign off...so my pistons may be misfiring...
- With the setup here, room width 12' (25'long), the sounsdstage can be larger than the room, in all 3 directions in front of me. The walls can vanish. I use a tweeter-in config but tried tweeter-out for a while just to evaluate. The stage width is just as good with either but tweeter-in is sharper and more focused here.
- Tweeter-in's stage here is deeper. Again, room config and size may play a role.
- We will get to the panels later but I do worry a little about the current placement. My initial thought is that light treatments will be better. The panels, at least experimentally, may turn out to be better on the wall behind you, on the right. Their absorption may help balance against the open space to the dining room. In addition, you could wind up with better dynamic punch. If it worked, a prettier alternative may be mandated later, unless you are single... : - ))
- In the meantime, I have to figure out how you can take advantage of a room feature that we partially share; the truncated corner on one side. In my case, I had to match it on the other side, and it became an asset. You can't fully do so. We'll have to be creative.
And now it is 3:30am...later!
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