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RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b

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In Reply to: RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b posted by Satie on January 11, 2012 at 02:32:58

What a bunch of BS. If you need to listen louder than what ET's will go, you're deaf. The ET's will totally energize a 22 by 12 room for sure.

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RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - josh358 16:39:16 01/11/12 (3)
I'm afraid I have to disagree. Bruce Pick provides enviably thorough specifications on his website (I wish other manufacturers, including Magnepan, would follow suit), and he lists the maximum SPL as 105 dB at 1 meter. This is not sufficient to play large-ensemble acoustical music at concert hall orchestra-seat levels. It is likely adequate for studio pop, with its limited dynamic range, and many audiophiles listen to orchestral music at lower levels. But the LFT-8b is a low-output speaker even by consumer standards -- see Figure 8:

http://www.zainea.com/Dynamic%20range.htm

Again, this isn't going to be a problem for everyone, but your claims of BS and deafness are incorrect.
- RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - DavidJames 18:47:42 01/11/12 (2)
  To each his own. My home theater has never experienced 105DBs.
  
  As for deafness, I'll take the word of the experts thanks.
  
  I confess, however, I don't have the golden ears of others. I can't hear the difference in properly sized and constructed speaker cables, power cables, interconnects, fuses, amps, etc. etc. etc. I don't feel so bad though, as no one else has under proper blind test conditions.
  
  Oh, and you may mean Bruce Thigpen
  - RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - JBen 19:36:05 01/11/12 (0)
    DJ: "I confess, however, I don't have the golden ears of others. I can't hear the difference in properly sized and constructed speaker cables, power cables, interconnects, fuses, amps, etc. etc. etc. "
    
    LOL! Nothing to confess. Consider yourself lucky and brag about it. Not only do you have a nice set of speakers but you can get to enjoy them as heavens mandated. That is, unencumbered by the mania that afflicts must of us here. In fact, to this date I keep wondering what kind of friend am I. I told a good friend of mine what to listen for. Because he started perceiving these things, I only made him miserable.
    
    [For listening myself, I have no choice because I grew up in the music, if you will. However, nowadays I am more inclined to help people stay happy with what they have if that is what they enjoy.]
    
    Now, that same friend, who owns great [dynamic] speakers costing 8 times the LFT-8b, found the latter very appealing in sound. I told him that he had to listen to the 8b (for his 2nd room). He agreed that they were more akin to his likes than the Magnepans. The irony was that his wife did not like them for their "looks". They heard them with no grills and the darned salesperson failed to tell him that grills were indeed available. Lost sale.
  - RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - josh358 19:22:38 01/11/12 (0)
    True that nobody has ABX'd cables (though there has been at least one successful single blind test). For what it's worth, many amps are easy to distinguish in a blind A/B test. The only controversy I know of is what it is about the amps that can be distinguished, Richard Clark says that once you adjust for frequency response differences they can't be ABX'd if you run them in their linear region, e.g., you don't push them to the point at which they become more nonlinear.
    
    You're right, of course, I did mean Bruce Thigpen.
RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - Satie 12:19:47 01/11/12 (0)
It is a matter of his preferences, not yours.

For quite a few of us "sufficiently" energizing the room is not enough.

I would have loved to use the LFT3 but it is a distinctly mezzo forte player, which is the same problem I found with ESLs.
RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - JohnnyTee 08:57:08 01/11/12 (1)
Well that's what this hobby is all about I guess, differences of opinion. Any feedback on the MG 3A crossover mod and what kind of differences it would make?
"The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him" Proverbs 18: 17
- RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - Satie 12:32:02 01/11/12 (0)
  The first difference is clarity and coherence. Davy did an asymetrical passive XO in first order and is very happy with it.
  Of course, bracing with Mye stands will significantly enhance bass dynamics and extension, and clear up the midrange noticeably.
  The main impediment for me suggesting a biamp for you is that the Moscode you have is such a beloved piece, and I would be reluctant to make it redundant as it would be way overkill for driving the mid/treble sections in a biamp setup.
  There is a great improvement potential with a pair of sealed subwoofers. Mainly by taking the bottom octave off the MG3a, which saves you alot of IMD higher up the freq range. Dayton (parts express) produce an affordable powered "reference" sub that can be put in for well under $2K.
  e.g. 10" "Titanic" pair of these http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-761 not much more for the 12", about $1200
  
  Edits: 01/11/12
RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - DavidJames 07:32:35 01/11/12 (1)
You are correct. I'm not sure where that myth started but I see it whenever the ET LFT 8 is discussed.

I had the 8a for a while but had to sell and replaced them with MMG's. I miss them.

I hope to get a set of 8b's, or c's or d's ;) in a few years.
- RE: Eminent Technology LFT-8b - Satie 12:51:37 01/11/12 (0)
  That should have been obvious as a downgrade.
  
  To restate what I said to bryan, not everyone listens at civilized volumes. and DO want to try approaching concert levels - particularly on peaks.

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