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In Reply to: RE: Magnepan at CES where? posted by Enchantment1.6s on January 09, 2009 at 17:20:26
They aren't at CES perse. They are at T.H.E.in the Alexis (Executive ballroom). Prepare to be shocked! As stated below you weren't able to see them in the demo and they sounded fantastic. With very few exceptions, they sounded better than anything I heard at CES. I really thought it was a new flagship, the bass speed and extension was truely impressive. Treble light detailed and airy. Incredibly impressive soundstage. At one point there was a drum solo and everone in the room commented on how there had to be a kit behind that curtain. The dynamics were that good.
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Can't wait to hear these small ribbons.
Magnepan finally realizes their best asset after Jim Winey is true ribbon.
However I can't believe a smaller version could produce the same image density as the 5 foot ribbon of the 20's.
Could be the answer for guys with small listening rooms like myself who love the true ribbon.
Scott
Magnepan has the option of doing something brilliant with the price here...selling this for what it costs to make plus a reasonable markup.
Or they could do as so many other hi-end companies are charge 'what the market will bear'.
I certainly hope they go with option 1. We could all use some good news these days.
In conversation with Mark Whiney and a reviewer for some overseas mag, he said he would have a hard time exceeding the price of the 1.6s. I didn,t get a chance to ask if that included the bass module. Either way it would be a steal.
I sure hope that's true. I keep reading comments from people who were there that Magnepan was asking people what they thought the price should be. I hope that doesn't indicate they're looking to take a 'what the market will bear' approach.
Either way, I'm afraid it will be a long time before this product ships. I hope not, I'd order a pair of small high-performance Magnepans sight unseen.
And a lot things come into play; ie:
employee salaries, their health care, insurance, etc.,
Retooling, overtime to keep up with orders etc.,
Jim Winey may be frugal but he's no fool. He takes care of his crew. Evident in the since that he could've 'easily' sent his designs overseas, and assembled by folks who probably make $2 a day; shipped back here and sold for tens of thousands more (the $12K 20.1 [original price] can hold their own against ANY > $20k product..... easily ).
But the man had a vision. And I'm sure his vision statement early on was to make a product worthy enough to be called the 'best' but also within the grips of the masses, the 'music lovers'.
Unfortunately his vision is a dying breed in this World of greed (noting wrong with capitalism; but I'll digress).
FORTUNATELY they call their own shots and don't have to kiss 'big coporate' asses from stock and shareholders who only give a $h*t about their own portfolios.
Bravo Magnepan!
And a lot things come into play; ie:
employee salaries, their health care, insurance, etc.,
Retooling, overtime to keep up with orders etc.,
From Green Lantern:
Jim Winey may be frugal but he's no fool. He takes care of his crew. Evident in the since that he could've 'easily' sent his designs overseas, and assembled by folks who probably make $2 a day; shipped back here and sold for tens of thousands more (the $12K 20.1 [original price] can hold their own against ANY > $20k product.....easily).
But the man had a vision. And I'm sure his vision statement early on was to make a product worthy enough to be called the 'best' but also within the grips of the masses, the 'music lovers'.
Unfortunately his vision is a dying breed in this World of greed (noting wrong with capitalism; but I'll digress).
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I also agree with Green Lantern. - Magnepan is one of the few speaker manufacturers that has produced truly high-end, high-fidelity speakers at rational prices for an extended period, despite increasing costs (labor, utilities, shipping, raw materials, manuf. components, taxes, insurance, fuel, etc., etc.). - I would hate to see them go under.
Jim Cate
I agree completely, and the end of your last sentence pretty much encapsulates one of the primary undermining factors of our (market) economy.
"Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ
Edits: 01/11/09
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No, they are keeping it very close to the vest. I suspect when they figure out what to do with it we will see some. Trust me when I tell you, you won't believe how small they are.
could swear there was late last evening (or was I dreaming)..(and Not the decaware comparison either..)
Anyway a reviewer mentioned a slightly less soundstage than he's used to hearing from Maggies (remarkable in itself considering the size of the speaker)..Can we expect an entire line of these license plate sized speakers to replace the exsiting behemoth panels?
Why not, wouldn't it make business sense from a aspect ratio point of view?
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-Joe
They're not that big!
it's gonna take a LOT of booze and therapy to forget THAT scene!
thanks for the laf!
x
There was/is a great description that paints a picture in my mind, but I don't recall actually seeing a real picture.
"Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ
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