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In Reply to: RE: Those Were The Days posted by Jotaro on March 13, 2025 at 02:00:19
To wit: When I was 7 years old, churches were being blow up in the US South, the FBI was trying to dismantle the civil rights movement and in October of that year, the world came to the brink of nuclear war.
Pick a year or an era, you'll find turmoil, violence, war, famine...
We only think things were better and simpler because we were kids or because that's what we see in movies and TV.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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We all love to rag on the internet but thanks to the WWW, they have access to things we couldn't have imagined when I was their age. They're interested in so much, and I think it's great.
Hell just look at music. My oldest grandson is 12. When I was that age and a song I loved came on the radio, if I couldn't afford to buy it I had to memorize it because the radio wasn't going to play it forever. The grandkids can listen to the entire canon, every piece of music ever created, any time they want.
When I was 12, the Vietnam War was entering its bloodiest phase with no end in sight and there was a draft.
If you sat outside your house at night, that's when the steel mills let the pollution roll. Sulfur dioxide fumes would chase you back in.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Ghost, why are you always so negative? Is it that if everything isn't perfect In your eyes, then none of it can be good?
Good stuff happened, just not more good stuff.
And people who think things are far worse now are wrong.
I used to have this argument with my mom all the time (she died in 2018). She always said that she never remembered the world as a worse place than now, and I'd have to remind her that she lived through the most deadly war in human history when she was a child.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Is Pittsburg better now than 50 years ago?
It's a much better place to live now than it was 50 years ago.
Sure, we were still a steel-producing town in the Seventies, but the air was dirty, the rivers were polluted, and all our eggs were in one basket. When Reagan came, we lost steel and were flat on our asses for a decade.
But if you're one of those guys who longs for the day when a high school dropout could land a job paying the equivalent of $80K in today's money and didn't mind the poisonous air, poisoned water, and the sheer shittiness of those jobs, then you might disagree.
And that's the whole point. There were no better simpler times. Too many people think Leave It To Beaver is a documentary series.
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"Too many people think Leave It To Beaver is a documentary series."
True enough. The truth is that for better or worse society 'remembers' the past as it's depicted in stupid simplistic TV shows.
There are people out there who think the Brady Bunch is a realistic portrayal of the 1970s, but it was far from that, as anybody who lived then will attest.
My brother-in-law is the same age as Wally Cleaver, and I recall he remarked "If Wally Cleaver went to my high school he would gotten the shit kicked out of him every day"
People also think characters in movies are somebody realm when they are just the thoughts of the person writing the script. Case in point: The Dude from 'The Big Lebowski'
Nos? "Danger to Manifold?"
In fact, the whole franchise is just as bad. If you can't get the car stuff right, don't make a car movie.
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What do you think Pittsburg would be like if it never had the steel industry? Much of America was similar to Leave it to Beaver and even Mayberry. But I doubt you can relate to that.
Too many people can't tell fact from fiction, unfortunately. In real life June Cleaver would have been gulping Milltowns and the local Catholic priest would have been diddling the Beaver. "Mayberry" was a studio backlot in California, and Mt. Airy, NC (which Mayberry was based on) was most likely a sundowner town. You familiar with that term?
Neither one of those shows had any more of a relationship to reality than Star Trek
Steel made Pittsburgh and then wrecked it. We recovered on our own, thanks to some visionary local politicians (liberal Democrats back when that actually meant something), and we're better off without the steel industry.
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The clues were everywhere. Husband/wife with separate twin beds. Bathrooms without toilets. June Cleaver dressed up and wearing pearls while preparing dinner in the kitchen. People always sitting at only 3 sides of a square dinner table. Etc.
A Servel. We had one just like it when I was a kid.
Except ours never worked right and my dad was constantly taking it apart and putting it back together again.
Hollywood is the Bullshit Industrial Complex, it's true, but nobody was supposed to watch that crap and think it was true to life.
At the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious, there's a huge problem with people believing what they see on TV and in movies, and then acting on those beliefs.
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Very clever design using "absorption" principle to create cold from a heat source. No moving parts either if you don't consider gasses and liquids moving around by convection and gravity as "moving parts". Only needed a gas source like natural or propane so they were popular for summer homes wo electricity. They had a reputation for problems as you know, including death from carbon monoxide poisoning. I recall them being "outlawed" or restricted. Don't know if anything like it is made today. With advent of cheap solar and peltier effect coolers, I'd guess not.
the compressors don't last more than a few years.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
I think the Servel was in the first house, the second newer house had all Built in GE appliances, refrigerator, oven, stove, washer dryer.
The rest of the house was all GE also, vacuum cleaner, television, console stereo, radio and record player in the boys room.
It was an Frigidaire and almost 20 years old. Bought it right after Katrina. The compressor had been making buzzing and groaning noises for months. We bought a counter depth that had to be ordered and took about a month to come in. My wife would talk to the old one every time it made noises telling it to "hang in there buddy, your replacement is on the way".
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