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In Reply to: RE: Texas stamp collectors. nt posted by pictureguy on May 28, 2021 at 16:29:33
The folks in the photo are out there. I agree. On the other hand, I grew up in a house with guns. My stepdad had a sweet 12 gauge pump. I had a 20 gauge bolt action. My mom and sister shared a .410 and there was a .22 that was shared. Most of my friends grew up in a similar environment. None of us ever shot anyone. We went hunting. Guns weren't for killing people. They were for supplemental food.
Your fantasy is a fantasy.
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a different story, as are mega-magazine, armor-piercing bullets, assault-style rifles. These were designed for one purpose: killing or injuring human beings.
I am not for eliminating handgun ownership; I am for regulating sale and possession.
Since serious crime has plummeted since the seventies, and I don't live in a poverty-ridden neighborhood, I'm not fearful of imminent attack. Nor am I scared when I venture from home. I am sorry so many guys are scared to death to leave home without being armed or so scared in their own homes they need a fortress.
I think that assault rifles should be limited to the military and law enforcement. I see no reason for any law abiding citizen to own one.
I feel super safe where I live now. That wasn't always the case. When I lived in the city, we were burglarized. My wife walked in while it was going on - very scary. Luckily, they ran out the back while she was running out the front and we just lost some stuff. After that, someone tried to break in early one morning after I had left for work but my wife was still home. That was when I bought a couple of hand guns and taught my wife to shoot. A neighbor next door and across the street were burglarized. The lady across the street was burglarized three times. Cars were broken into weekly. I had my car and a company car broken into. They just broke out the window on the street side and took whatever. It was very inconvenient leaving for work to have to vacuum glass and install plastic in place of a window.
Car break-ins occur almost nightly in a very nice area of the city. It's on the news a few times a week. One guy said that his truck had been broken into eight times. Armed teenagers are constantly car jacking people. These kids are as young as 13-15. Two kids carjacked a woman and shot and killed her recently. There is currently a fight over trying them as adults.
We moved to a suburb where we lived for 30+ years that was safer than the city. We had one burglary of a neighbor there and one neighbor got car jacked as he was pulling into his driveway last year. There is spill over crime in the suburbs.
Where I live now is about as safe as it gets.
Wow.
All of your examples are exactly why the criminal element of society should not be allowed to have guns!
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We are inclusive and diverse. But dissent will not be tolerated.
a guy walks up to your window (happened to me) and sticks a gun in your throat. Yeah, you're gonna draw yours, right after your head is blown off.
Your examples show how crazy the idea of gun security is. If your wife or you had been armed in your examples, one or both of you may have been killed---- or you may have killed a human being.
Guns can make you feel safer, but they don't: they make you less safe because you begin to think you're Dirty Harry when in fact you're just a schmuck with a gun who's going to be shaking in a crisis and not able to hit shit, except a bystander perhaps, when he starts panic pulling.
The guns weren't for drawing and having a shoot out with a criminal. They were for protection inside my house if someone were to try to break in.
If car jacked, or robbed, I would give up the car or my wallet. Even if I was carrying, I wouldn't resist. A CC weapon is a last resort thing when you feel your life is at stake. Having a gun is a personal decision. You make your decision and I make mine.
"Since serious crime has plummeted since the seventies,"
Lefties here are fond of asking for data sources. I'm asking for yours.
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We are inclusive and diverse. But dissent will not be tolerated.
Down, down, and now kind of steady.
my, and others', belief that it's an illusion that you are safer walking around with a gun.
Mark in NC
"The thought that life could be better is woven indelibly into our hearts and our brains" -Paul Simon
I, like you, grew up in a house with guns, and all the males in my family hunted. It was kind of a "right of passage"--when you turned 10, you got your first shotgun (usually a 20 ga), and when you turned 12, you got your first rifle (in my case, a .243 Marlin). The guns were not secured, and there were a few handguns that were loaded at all times. No one ever got shot--either accidentally, or on purpose.
During hunting season, if you checked the vehicles in the student parking area of my high school, you'd find quite the collection of firearms, because we frequently went hunting right after school. No one ever shot-up the school, or threatened anyone with a gun.
Different times, different type of parents...
"So I talk to the night, I head for the light, try and hold it on the road. Thank God for the man who put
the white lines on the highway"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP
Please be specific.....what part of what I said is a fantasy?
that htis guy be RESPONSIBLE and secure the guns? I'd agree with that. This type and MOST others would say that kids will do what they are told to do....now THAT'S a fantasy....And a family with half a dozen guns is about 2 orders of magnitude Under Armed compared with the subjects of the photo.
My family had several 12ga for trap and hunting. Dad had a Browning and Ma had a Remington 870, with a short stock which was MY first experience with a shotgun....
40 years ago I had a single shot 20 ga which shot LOW and LEFT about 4 feet each....at 15 yards or so. UnUsable for anything but making noise and shooting unintended targets.
Current status of JROTC program.....
And please not to forget that at ONE TIME, marksmanship was taught in high schools which in some cases had s shooting team....
Too much is never enough
Edits: 05/28/21
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