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I think bean's point was that there's nothing wrong with questioning authority.

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ghost of olddude55

In Reply to: RE: The data provided to McNamara by top commanders was deliberately wrong. posted by Rick W on November 21, 2020 at 10:17:18

Which is true. Willful ignorance is another matter.
The thing about MacNamara is that the principles of the business world can only be applied to winning wars when your opponent is playing the same game, like the second world war. It should have been obvious. It was obvious. It didn't work in Korea. The French tried the same strategy in Vietnam that we did and failed. We had more firepower but that's all.
The generals were only giving Washington the data MacNamara wanted. Body counts, tons of bombs dropped, etc. Those were the metrics that Washington used to measure progress.

The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?

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Westmoreland told everybody including McNamara we were winning, knowing it was bs. - Rick W 12:37:20 11/21/20 (1)
I'm sure as hell not defending McNamara, who deep down knew it was bullshit too. Just sayin' that in the case of covid medical experts/scientists do have a lotta reliable data. The Australian episode was a bizarre result of a liar providing faulty data to authorities. Hardly the norm or adequate reason to be skeptical about the advice we are getting from medical experts everywhere about precautions we should take regarding covid19. How'd the skepticisism of Upper Midwesterners work out?
- Westmorland was a dolt, but he can't be blamed for what happened in VN. - ghost of olddude55 12:50:43 11/21/20 (0)
  The whole operation right from the start, while the French still ran the country, was poison.
  Westmorland was interested in body counts because Washington wanted body counts. He didn't have the capability of fighting the kind of war that Hanoi had in mind.
  And he was on the wrong side anyway. We were never gonna have to fight them in Peoria.
  
  The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
  
  Edits: 11/21/20

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