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In Reply to: RE: I have to agree with bean about McNamara. posted by bean on November 21, 2020 at 09:49:15
People thought MacNamara was nuts to turn the trim little 'bird into a bloated, ugly 4-seater but they overestimated the taste of the American public and the Squarebird was a sales success.
Got Bobby Mac a spot in JFK's cabinet and the rest is sorry history.
X-tons of bombs doesn't not = surrender. Kennedy and LBJ should have looked at the Edsel, not the Thunderbird.
But bean, really...you probably should have chosen a better subject line for your post. It wasn't scientists who over-reacted to a bullshit story, it was elected leaders, who are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Call it wrong, people die, you get blamed. If it all turns out to be crap, you still get blamed.
MacNamara, by the way, wasn't a scientist either. He was an MBA/management type who didn't want to be questioned, which is a characteristic of MBA/management types.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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Shit stirred, deliberately.
Just a bit of poking fun.
If you approach the day keeping the phrase "figures never lie, but liars always figure" at hand, you might be surprised at the things you find.
Now throw that spoon away!
And always have a back-up spoon (or three) at hand.
I do love a good shit stirring!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Did my best to get it off on a tangent about the 1958 Thunderbird, too.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
"In Retrospect".
"The disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. As you see it gets in the lungs!"
They were (supposedly) the best and brightest and they were wrong.
There was plenty of information out there, they just didn't want to see it.
Failed to learn from the Korean War, for one thing, or Dien Bien Phu. Still, the only lesson our leaders have taken from the horrendous military adventurism of the post-WWII era is, don't have a draft. Because if anybody's kid can get killed in Iraq, then the general public might sit up and take notice.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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