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In Reply to: RE: helping Son 1 with removing a garden bed - AKA Bloody Star-Pickets posted by Timbo in Oz on July 12, 2017 at 00:36:21
I don't see those around here....what are they used for
in your situation?. Never heard of "star pickets". I bet
"bloody" after wrestling with them.
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down each flat surface. These holes being punched out after / during extrusion from a press. Then they are cut to length, pointed and coated in a bitumen product.Known also as Y-posts, in the US more commonly made as a T-post?! I think the star picket is unique to Aus. and NZ. Click below my post for the Wikipedia page.
Steel fencing posts were IIRC, developed in the 19C with stamped out little rectangular hooks for the holding of wire / barbed wire. IIRC the hooks alternated up or down facing. Barbed wire was developed in the USA and completely changing the cattle industry there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_fence_post
Many years ago I've built barbed wire entanglements on courses with the h'army and in the field - using the very same kind of pickets.
But I've never had to pull any out that were this deep in the ground. That longer one had 3 feet in the ground and a jaggedly cut end, no point.
See alsohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbed_wire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_fencing
The history of technology and socio-technical human activity systems is one of my many interests.
Before trying to get these pickets OUT? The builder of this bed had fixed the two thick heavy retaining boards to the posts using 4 driver bolts, which had rusted in the soil for > 26 years, so I had to use an angle-grinder and cutting disc to cut 20 bolt-heads off. Heaps of fun digging out enough soil to make room and cutting at a difficult angle, with a death dealing tool to boot! He had also used long posts that he cut up none too cleanly so they have no give at the point.
Thank God for modern garden bed kits designed for later removal, eh?!
Thank you for your interest, and ...
end of vent!
;-)
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 07/12/17 07/12/17 07/12/17 07/12/17
Thanks, great explanation!. Yes, vast majority of posts here
are "T" posts, but I've see "U" posts with the notch cutouts
for barbed wire.
Great way to get posts out if no tractor or puller handy is to
saturate the soil with water, let it sit overnight, or to dig down
6-12" and cut off with grinder.
Harbor Freight used to sell a decent "T" post puller for only $30. US.,
but for some reason discontinued selling them.
Yep been doing that from the get go, even using a high pressure nozzle on the garden hose! Lets you dig down the sides of the thing.Bloody thing comes off though, so I'm glad I took a plastic one which floats.
The now killed tree's roots are the big problem. See rest of thread.
JBTWay you're real good on cone speakers, yes? Email me please.
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 07/13/17
Cannot email you, your settings won't allow. Click on
"Coner" at the top of my reply to send a msg.Mark
Edits: 07/13/17 07/13/17
:-)!
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
You got me interested in star posts / pickets today. Interesting stuff.
In the 1970s living in PNG, star pickets and marston matting were laying around just about everywhere.
I had no idea star pickets were patented in Australia.
Bush walking in the Blue Mountains the last two days I saw plenty of them holding timber steps in place. What a great bit of gear!
Cheers,
John K
For me the puller is the best bit of gear!
I have plans for star pickets at home:
For the big climbing rose, really long pickets driven in deep, plus the existing ones.
and, for vertical gardens using some scrap galvanised rod fencing and some plastic coated similar stuff. You hook the small pots to the horisontal rods, add dripper system. Hard for snails and slugs to get to. Put snail baits under it as well.
Grow food? strawberries, other berries? Peas and beans, herbs, Easier to pick for old folks.
And, to hold summer shade cloth sections in front of the deck's sunny North facing gaps.
Should we decide to move the gardens I now have the right tool. And, my BILaw has a property and his fences include some pickets, IIRC.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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