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In Reply to: RE: Lung cancer in smokers vs non smokers, all breathing the same air posted by Tweaker456 on April 11, 2017 at 09:19:11
dying is an art like everything else.
Follow Ups:
Just because there are other potential health issues out of our control (to some degree only, one can always move away to a healthier location), doesn't mean one should go out and intentionally harm themselves. Don't get me wrong, I smoked for many years, but knowing I was adding to the chances of cancer, etc.
The fact still remains on the percentages as shown by the OP, it's not like they isolated all the study participants from every other harmful environment. If you smoke your chances are that much greater...
I quit smoking to be healthier. I also moved away from Vancouver to (among other things) reduce stress and get away from pollution. Lots of things are within ones control.
I say this now, but I believe I am going to go through my last carton this week. I can't afford the cost (about $1,200 a month with all the taxes) and I managed to resign from my job due to the stress.
In the interim I will smoke some pipe tobacco out of my pipe to try to wean off, it is not going to be easy but I turn 40 at the end of the year and it is time to stop at least for me.
In terms of the environment, yes I have to get the hell out of New York and go somewhere, I've thought about Uruguay as well as the south of the United States. Right now I don't know what to do really, I have to figure the rest out.
Right now I am only a US Citizen, so not much options yet.
"I say this now, but I believe I am going to go through my last carton this week."
I have found that usually those who say it don't mean it and those who mean it don't say it. Sorry, but I callem as I seeum. Same with alcohol or other drugs.
I had already gotten to the point where I was getting cigarettes tax free, which means like a couple bucks a pack or less. It wasn't the money. I was also pretty much bulletproof so it was not any concern for my health. But on August 11th, 2011 I decided I'd had enough. I was simply not enjoying it. No patch, no pills, no hypnotist, none of that, simply do not light up another one.
And do it while you still have cigarettes, or tobacco and tubes or whatever. If you use the lack of access to help quell an addiction you might find yourself barefoot at three in the morning at the gas station getting a pack of Winstons through the window. You yourself must have this resolved.
If nothing else it is a little bit less tax money. I am tired of having my tax money go to bombing Women and children. They get as little as possible from me.
Good luck in stopping. Don't call it quitting. Also, make no promises. It is day to day. If, in a few months you want to light up, well you are over 21 right ? You have every right to do so. It is your choice.
And it is your choice not to, every minute of every day.
"I am tired of having my tax money go to bombing Women and children." Well we can sure agree on something. I myself would include men in that though. Pretty sure we will have to remain tired for some time. T456
"The Borg is the ultimate user. They're unlike any threat your Federation has ever faced."
- Q, 2365
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"The Borg is the ultimate user. They're unlike any threat your Federation has ever faced."
- Q, 2365
I think it was Mark Twain that said: Quitting smoking is easy, I've done it at least a thousand times.
It's a dirty, filthy, nasty, smelly, disgusting habit that I thoroughly enjoyed for nearly 20 years, but I do not miss it and feel so much better for having stopped. That monkey's been off my back now for over 25 years. All those pizzas you enjoy so much will taste ever better to you and your sense of smell will return too.
You just have to keep repeating to yourself "I'm a puff away from a pack a day". You are stronger than your urges. Show them smokes who's boss.
I love it, I will quit for the 1000th time due to financial reasons. I will not be contributing to the state taxes anymore. Figure $200 a week in Taxes they won't get from me.
And I know I am lying, I'm not quitting, it is one of the only things I got in my life that keeps me going. I lead a very sad life,
So, why can't you?!
Weak willed?
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Yes, I have no self control. I'm a bad bad addict, I should be exterminated.
No one is worthless.I am known occasionally to smoke an OP - other people's - if offered when drinking socially. Perhaps two to three cigs a month.
So I too am still an addict of nicotine. and so will you be if you stop.
The day I 'stopped' I took a carton and a half of Gauloise, a 2/3rd carton of Camel Filters, about ten Soubranies, and two packs of RYOwn tobacco, and several different lots of pipe tobacco. And burnt them in our backyard incinerator. NB We are not allowed to have / use these, anymore.
Gave away the pipes as well - three of, including a hooked silver-ferrule Peterson, and a meerschaum. And, both cigarette rolling machines, and three waterproof cigarette box covers from my time in the H'army.
Why did I stop? I wanted / needed surgery for chronic sinusitis and a deviated septum. he wouldn't do it if I didn't stop for 2 months before and after. And, the penny dropped.
So, I know full well that it isn't easy, but if a driven, impulsive PITA like me can do it? Again, why can't - or won't? - you?
Eh?
Take a break from here, get some appointments with a counselor, to learn how to take charge of yourself, and do it!
Have a go, mate.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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What a waste of good tobacco.
Be good Tim, all the best in your recovery.
extract the digit, etc.
and, stop boring the pants off us all.
eh?
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
My Dad died of lung CA, at a much too early age. It wasn't an easy death. It eventually metastasized to his brain. I doubt he recognized anything the last few years of his life. He was constantly in-&-out of hospitals with acute pneumonia or fluid build-up on the lungs, etc.
Anyhow, Godspeed for you! Good luck!
They're only beginning to understand just how addictive nicotine really is, and why the habit is so hard to break for some people. From the article linked below on Macalester College's website:
"Nicotine's pharmacokinetic properties have been found also to enhance its abuse potential. Cigarette smoking produces a rapid distribution of nicotine to the brain, with drug levels peaking within 10 seconds of inhalation. This fast delivery of drug assures that the smoker receives instant reinforcement for smoking, this perpetuates the continuation of smoking. The acute effects of nicotine dissipate in a few minutes, making the smoker continue dosing frequently throughout the day in order to maintain the drug's pleasurable effects and prevent the uncomfortable symptoms of withdrawal. What people frequently do not realize is that the cigarette is a very efficient and highly engineered drug-delivery system. By inhaling, the smoker can get nicotine to the brain very rapidly with every puff. A typical smoker will take 10 puffs on a cigarette over a period of 5 minutes in which the cigarette is lit. Thus, a person who smokes about 1-1/2 packs (30 cigarettes) daily, will get 300 "hits" of nicotine to the brain each day. These factors contribute considerably to nicotine's highly addictive nature."
$1200 a month? Really? What, do you smoke a carton a day? Sheeeez.... A carton here in NC is $55 for the premium brands. Still unhealthy and still a bad waste of money, just not quite to the extreme you're dealing with.
$135 a carton, they even got the balls to charge sales tax on it. Smoke about 2x packs a day, more when I am stressed.
NC is a state I am looking at to move to. I just don't want to be labeled a Yankee, because I am not. The last thing I need when I move are people who would frown upon the fact that I am from NY. We have our problems with illegals here, I have to figure it out, also my accent doesn't help, it sounds like I am in the back room of a diner with the Sopranos, lol!
$135 in five days is $27 a day times 365.. plus tax... $10,000.
One of the things I thought of to quit was how much money a continued lifetime of smoking would be. And then of what else i could own with that money (rather then owning 100,000's of used cigarette butts.)
Well, you should move to Cary, NC then (Cary Audio's original hometown). Cary is an acronym for Containment Area for Relocated Yankees. :) Kidding aside, most Carolinians I know are pretty welcoming, and those that aren't are not worth your time anyway.
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